Join host Jon Harris on the Conversations That Matter podcast for a discussion with Virgil Walker, teaching pastor at Redeemer Bible Church in Arizona and former host of the Just Thinking podcast. Jon and Virgil cover Virgil's ministry journey, the rise and fall of G3 Ministries, the Christian nationalism debate, and the Josh Bice scandal. They also discuss evangelicalism, personal sanctification, and the future of expository preaching in America. Virgil shares lessons from ministry betrayals and his vision for faithful ministry.

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