Terra Csotty walked into an awards ceremony still in a fog. Minutes earlier, her car had rolled three times on a Chicago expressway. Everyone lived. And standing on that stage, collecting an award she barely registered, she had one thought. I could have died and nobody knows who I am.

That moment didn't break her. It aimed her.

Terra owns four Real Producers publications across Michigan. She built all of it from scratch, starting from a stay at home mom with a Cutco knives background and a partner who didn't want to be on camera.

She's not running a magazine. She's running a community that happens to print one.

Things we tackled in this episode:

→ How Real Producers actually works and why realtors don't pay a dime

→ The difference between connecting people and selling to them

→ What it really takes to stay top of mind without overkill

→ Why she'll turn down a potential partner without burning the bridge

→ What success looks like when you stop tying it to a number

Terra's been doing this for eight years because she loves it. That's the whole story. And she told it straight.

Thanks, Terra! The rollover story alone was worth the whole conversation. Appreciate you bringing it.

*Chapters*

0:00 - Intro

1:00 - Who Is Terra the Connector

3:45 - How Real Producers Works

5:40 - From Stay at Home Mom to Four Publications

6:40 - What Covid Did to the Business

9:00 - Being Referable and Why It Matters

11:20 - You Can't Sell Something You Don't Believe In

15:00 - The Business Model Behind Real Producers

20:00 - The Book, the Speaking, and What's Coming Next

21:40 - Where the Drive Actually Comes From

23:05 - The Rollover and the Moment That Changed Everything

28:40 - Patience, Parenting, and Getting Your Priorities Straight

30:50 - How She Defines Success

*Connect with Terra*

linkedin.com/in/terra-csotty-60a2661

https://www.instagram.com/terratheconnector/

~~~

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Jocelyn Ho didn't plan to start a business. She planned to keep her plants by the window.

She was a new immigrant. Covid hit. No jobs, no path forward, and a south-facing window full of rare tropical plants her husband kept complaining about. So she sold them. Made $1,000 in a weekend. Kept going.

What we covered:

How she went from accidental plant seller to running a full-scale rare plant operation

What EO Detroit gave her that no business book could

The "arrival fallacy" and why hitting the goal often leaves you emptier than you expected

Staying the visionary when the business starts to need process

Why she thinks right now is the best time in history to build something

This conversation reminded me that the best businesses start as something you'd do anyway. Jocelyn was just honest enough to follow that.

Jocelyn, thank you for being so open about the real stuff. The struggle, the doubt, and the joy you've found on the other side of it. That's the episode right there.

*Chapters*

00:00 Intro

01:00 Meet Jocelyn Ho and Rare Plant Fairy

02:07 How the company name came together

03:20 Why people buy plants and what they get back

06:03 Defining entrepreneur and visionary

07:36 Staying creative when the business needs process

10:13 What EO Detroit did for her as a founder

13:48 Who buys rare plants and how the business works

14:32 From Hong Kong to Detroit: her immigration story

17:27 The arrival fallacy and redefining success

21:32 Antifragility and what it means to build something real

25:16 Growth mindset, abundance, and optimism

27:26 Why she's on this planet and what legacy means to her

*Connect with Jocelyn*

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jocelyn-ho-rpf

https://www.instagram.com/jocelynho313/

https://www.facebook.com/rareplantfairy/

~~~

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Mark Winter has been in PR for 30 years.

He started Identity in 1998 with a one-year-old at home, no money in the bank, and his wife's 401k funding the whole thing.

The harder story came later. Mark told me he had built something real, 40 people, offices in Michigan and Tampa, a client list most agencies would envy. And he almost broke it by staying too deep inside it. Letting go of the day-to-day wasn't a decision. It was a three-year process that tested his ego, his trust, and his identity.

What came out on the other side was a man who finally knew what he was actually good at.

We covered in this episode:

→ How Mark's "give before you get" philosophy shaped Identity's entire culture from day one

→ What it took to step back from running his own company and why it nearly didn't work

→ Why vision boards aren't just a motivational tool but a system Marc has used for 15 years to build his life

→ How a single EO referral saved his agency during Covid, replacing over $1M in lost revenue in two weeks

→ What modern PR actually means, and why human relationships are still the strategy that no AI can replace

There's a moment in this conversation where Mark says he didn't even know what he was good at until his team told him to stop doing everything else. That part hit me... Most of us are so deep in the work that we never stop to ask what the work is actually for.

Mark, thank you for showing up with zero pretense and total honesty. You've built something worth celebrating. And watching you figure out what comes next is the best part of knowing you.

*Connect with Mark*

https://www.linkedin.com/in/markawinter/

https://www.instagram.com/markwinter1998/

https://identitypr.com/

~~~

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Dr. Mark Young has a PhD in psychology and neuroscience, holds a Guinness World Record in pro racing, runs a leading consumer packaged goods agency, and has built over 250 brands.

He's a lot of things. But what struck me most was how he got there.

Mark grew up in a blue collar town. His dad was a plumber. And if he had told anyone at 18 what his life would eventually look like, he said they'd have either laughed him off or assumed he was on something. He would have probably agreed with them.

The shift happened when he stopped asking "why me" and started asking "why not me."

That one question changed everything.

Here’s what we covered in this episode:

→ Why he replaced the word "control" with "influence" and how that changed his business and his racing

→ The moment he stopped blaming other people for his failures and what happened next

→ How modern medicine treats symptoms while functional medicine hunts for root causes

→ Why 80% of all consumer products still sell through brick and mortar, not Amazon

→ What AI is going to do to entry-level workers, and who benefits

Mark has this way of cutting through the noise that I don't come across that often. He's honest about what things cost, what they take, and what you have to be willing to let go of.

Thank you to Mark for sitting down with me and sharing all of it. The racing story alone was worth the whole conversation!

*Chapters*

0:00 - Introduction: Meet Dr. Mark Young

1:09 - Building a Universe That Fits Your Mind

2:01 - Free Days, Focus Days, and the Dan Sullivan Framework

2:17 - Pro Racing as a Second Career

3:04 - Racing as a Metaphor for Business and Life

6:01 - Replacing Control With Influence

8:31 - Flow State on the Track and in Work

12:07 - The 27 Unbreakable Rules: New Book Overview

16:41 - Firing Clients and Setting the Floor

19:51 - Endurance Racing vs. Playing to Win

21:38 - The Three Things Jekyll and Hyde Labs Does

23:02 - Health, Longevity, and Advocating for Yourself

33:18 - Functional Medicine vs. Treating Symptoms

36:14 - Hypnotherapy and How It Actually Works

41:49 - AI, Automation, and the Future of Work

51:57 - The "Why Not Me" Mindset That Changed Everything

59:27 - How to Connect With Dr. Mark Young

1:05:32 - Viva La Visionary: Celebrating the Crazy Ones

*Connect with Dr. Mark*

https://www.linkedin.com/in/markyoungwci/

https://jandhlabs.com/

~~~

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Bob Thomas has been at the Michigan Chamber of Commerce for nearly 30 years. Along the way, Bob had to figure out who he actually was as a leader.

He realized he was an Integrator. Good at execution, process, and holding things together. What he didn't expect was to find genuine visionary tendencies underneath all of that. Working inside a framework that gave him permission to think bigger changed the way he showed up, both in business and at home.

He built something big. But he had to learn how to let it go.

What we talked about in this episode:

→ What the Michigan Chamber actually does (and why most people have no idea)

→ The 3-3-1 morning practice that keeps Bob focused on what matters most

→ Why most leaders resist "letting go of the vine"

→ How visionary tendencies and integrator skills can live in the same person

→ Why AI is creating more room for humans to do what machines can't

The big takeaway: vision is something you practice and build a system around. And it starts with getting honest about what matters most to you, beyond the business.

Bob, thank you for being so open in this one. Thirty years in a mission is its own kind of vision. I'm grateful you shared it.

*Chapters*

0:00:00 - Welcome to Vivá La Visionary

0:00:22 - Visionary vs. Integrator: Where Bob Lands

0:01:44 - How EOS Unlocked Entrepreneurial Thinking Inside a Nonprofit

0:03:35 - What the Michigan Chamber of Commerce Actually Does

0:07:45 - Not Your Grandfather's Chamber

0:17:02 - What Vision Really Means for Leaders

0:20:26 - How Many Business Owners Are True Visionaries?

0:24:15 - The 3-3-1 Morning Practice

0:27:59 - Letting Go of the Vine

0:38:24 - Why Bob Has Stayed at the Chamber for 30 Years

0:42:05 - The Next Generation, AI, and the Case for Being Human

0:52:26 - Spirit, Surrender, and What Really Drives the Work

*Connect with Bob Thomas*

https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomasbob/

https://www.michamber.com/

~~~

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Rich Homberg has spent nearly 50 years in broadcasting. He worked his way up through all-news radio in New York, Pittsburgh, and eventually Detroit.

Then he got fired.

He was 33, running sales for one of the top radio stations in the country, left to chase ownership, and two years later it was over. At 50, he walked away from a VP role at CBS Radio and took over Detroit PBS.

He hasn't looked back in 18 years.

Things we covered in this episode:

→ How getting fired at 33 led to a career he'd never leave

→ What it means to be a visionary who learns to leave the room

→ Why nonprofits need entrepreneurial leadership more than most companies

→ How Detroit PBS grew from 67,000 to 81,000 members while losing federal funding

→ What Rich tells his college students about integrity, plans, and treating people like people

Most of us spend years trying to prove we belong in the room. Rich spent the second half of his career figuring out which rooms he needed to walk out of. And that's what made him great at this.

Thank you, Rich! You brought a very tangible energy to the conversation; I greatly appreciate you!

*Chapters*

0:00 - Welcome & Introduction to Rich Homberg

2:10 - How Rich Got His Start at NBC

5:30 - All-News Radio and the Road to Detroit

8:45 - Why Rich Left CBS to Run Detroit PBS

12:00 - Getting Fired at 33 and What It Taught Him

17:30 - Hiring a Life Coach and the Enneagram Moment

22:00 - What It Means to Be a Visionary Leader

28:15 - Running EOS Inside a Nonprofit

34:00 - Detroit PBS's Five Pillars of Programming

41:20 - Growing Membership During a Funding Crisis

47:00 - Advice for Entrepreneurs and Visionaries

52:30 - Integrity, Plans, and Treating People Like People

57:45 - Final Words and Sign-Off

*Connect with Rich*

https://www.linkedin.com/in/richhomberg/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/detroitpbs/

*Connect with Coach Bob*

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-shenefelt

https://www.instagram.com/imatterrevolution

https://www.facebook.com/iMatterRevolution

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~~~

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Kelly Siegel grew up on the east side of Eight Mile and Van Dyke in Detroit, with a childhood FAR from easy.

But instead of letting that freeze him, he built and scaled NTM into a multi-million dollar IT and cybersecurity firm.

He’s written two books and started a podcast. But most important of all… Joy, the thing he pushed down as a child just to survive, has started to come back after all these years.

In this episode of Vivá La Visionary, we cover:

→ Why visionaries keep hitting glass ceilings and how the real obstacle is almost never the business

→ Why Kelly credits EMDR and IFS therapy with changing the trajectory of his company

→ How running on fear gets you far but stops working the moment you need to grow

→ Why systems aren't constraints

→ What it looks like to let go of an identity you've carried for 34 years

There's a line Kelly said that I keep thinking about: "What we don't repair REPEATS."

Thanks Kelly, for being so open in our conversation and sharing your story with our listeners!

*Chapters*

0:00 - Meet Kelly Siegel

0:48 - Six Years Running on EOS: What the Structure Revealed

1:07 - The Artificial Ceiling and Why You're the Cause

2:30 - The Mirror Is the Only Tool You Need

3:03 - We Are Both the Problem and the Solution

4:42 - Growing Up Poor on Eight Mile: The Origin Story

5:18 - Building a Company on Fear (And Why It Has a Limit)

6:38 - What SYSTEMS Actually Stands For

8:03 - Letting Go of the Vine: Releasing Your Identity

9:12 - Healing Modalities That Moved the Needle

10:31 - Feeling Is Healing: What We Don't Repair Repeats

11:50 - How to Connect With Kelly and Get His Books

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Ivan Katz has been in the service business since he was 10 years old.

Paper routes. Food service. And then at 23, a landscaping company he would grow for the next 37 years.

But somewhere between nearly tripling his revenue and building a team that could finally run without him, Ivan hit a wall. He'd spent two decades being the top sales guy and visionary, but when he finally started stepping back, he didn't feel free.

He felt lost.

In our episode, we covered:

→ Why visionaries make dangerous integrators, and what happens when they finally admit it

→ How Great Lakes grew 3x and what broke in the process

→ The "CFI" (Crazy F*cking Idea) incubator model Ivan uses to vet new ventures

→ What it means to lead a culture where field workers and MBAs learn from each other

→ How to step back from sales without losing your sense of purpose

Ivan, thank you for being so open with your story! I’ve seen how you've really taken to heart that the hardest part of building something great is letting other people take it forward.

*Chapters*

0:00 - Introduction & Teaser Highlights

0:37 - Meet Ivan Katz and Great Lakes Landscape Design

1:03 - When Did You Realize You Were a Visionary?

2:30 - The Role of the Visionary: Spirit of the Company

4:06 - Managing Your Energy and Finding Outlets

7:14 - What Makes Great Lakes Different from the Competition

10:31 - Why You Should Call the Landscaper First

14:16 - Growing 3x and What Broke Along the Way

18:20 - The Flaming Visionary Problem: Moving Too Fast

19:17 - The CFI Incubator and New Revenue Streams

29:39 - Who Is the Ideal Great Lakes Client?

32:15 - Lessons Learned as a Visionary

38:29 - Personal Turning Point: Embezzlement and 300 lbs

39:14 - Bob's "I Matter" Work and Coaching Visionaries

40:29 - Identity Crisis: What Happens When They Don't Need You

45:52 - What Does Viva the Visionary Mean to You?

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Dave Feidner grew a family business into a global operation doing hundreds of millions in revenue. He launched a dozen companies and built something most people only dream about...

Then investors called and he had to hand it all over. But that didn't break him.

He moved back to the US, started consulting with EOS, and built a new chapter helping visionaries do what he had to learn the hard way: get out of their own way.

In this conversation, we cover:

→ The change equation and what it actually takes to stop resisting

→ Why visionaries get stuck in their identity instead of living their vision

→ The four eyes of transformational leadership

→ What the hero's journey looks like for founders and entrepreneurs

→ How "grow or die" became more than a core value

Thank you Dave, for bringing your whole self to this episode and sharing your story!

*Chapters*

0:00 - Welcome to Season 2!

0:39 - Meet Dave Feidner: Philosopher and EOS Implementer

3:08 - Dave's Origin Story: Building a Global Business

9:14 - The Board Meeting That Changed His Life

11:07 - How Dave Discovered EOS

14:20 - The Four Eyes of Transformational Leadership

21:01 - The Hero's Journey and Why Visionaries Avoid It

22:03 - All Growth Comes From Pain

25:10 - Entrepreneurship in Detroit

27:35 - The EO Community and the Power of Connection

31:25 - Impostor Syndrome and the "I Am" Statement

36:00 - Aristotle, Friendship, and the Friends of the Good

37:18 - Should Dave Write a Book?

41:30 - The Origin of Viva the Visionary

44:16 - What It Means to Be "Normal" (Maslow Weighs In)

46:12 - Dave's One Experience Share for Visionaries

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In this episode, Dan Corrigan, a visionary health expert, shares his journey from health struggles to founding a supplement company focused on natural, high-quality products. The conversation dives into the importance of natural foods, sustainable community practices, and redefining what it means to be a visionary with purpose beyond profit. Dan’s insights emphasize natural health, community building, and the role of authenticity in personal and professional growth.

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