In this episode of Rainy Day Recess, hosts Christie Robertson and Cherylynne Crowther interview Vivian Van Gelder, a candidate for the District 5 seat on the Seattle School Board. Note: Vivian has since stopped campaigning and is endorsing Janis White, but her name will still appear on the ballot. Vivian  diagnoses Seattle Public Schools as needing fundamental restructuring rather than reform. She argues that the district's failed experiment in "radical decentralization" 30 years ago created widespread disconnection—schools competing against each other, losing sight of their educational purpose, and becoming isolated from the communities they serve. Her central thesis is that current accountability measures like progress monitoring cannot work because the district lacks the foundational capacity for meaningful organizational change. She advocates for external intervention to help build proper structures before implementing governance models, describing the current approach as "putting the cart before the horse." Vivian also critiques the school board election process as fundamentally inaccessible to ordinary people with day jobs and children, arguing that effective campaigning skills differ entirely from effective governance skills. Her vision centers on reconnecting schools as the heart of healthy democratic communities. Listeners are encouraged to check out interviews with other District 5 candidates and stay informed for the upcoming elections.

Timestamps:

• 01:18 Interview start
• 01:36 Lightning Round
• 07:05 Main interview questions
• 15:42 Preview of other D5 candidates

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