This week it's me and Toby Davis getting stuck into the most talked-about release in magic right now: Shay Kahn's Rolex System.

A thousand dollars for a PDF, no trailer, no performance to watch, and a wave of online backlash that got pretty heated. So we sat down and actually talked about it properly, instead of joining the pile-on. Is it a scam, or a serious professional tool that just got marketed badly? We take the price out of it and look at what you're really paying for when you buy a method, why a PDF feels cheap when a book doesn't, and whether any of us should be weighing in on things we haven't even seen.

From there it wanders, as these things do, into getting outraged online, undervaluing your own work, and a few stories from Toby's years editing behind the scenes for some big names.

Honest, unscripted, no hype. Two people who love this stuff talking it out.

Have a listen and let us know what you reckon. We'll be answering comments and emails on the next one.

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