In a Zoom meeting on 28th September 2021 Robert and Michael discuss various aspects of the teachings of Bhagavan Ramana, particularly his teaching that our present state is just a dream, and the practice of self-investigation and self-surrender. Early in this discussion Robert refers to one of Michael’s recent articles, which he had written in reply to a question asked by Robert: Other people seem to be real because we seem to be a person.

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During this discussion Michael refers to and/or discusses the following passages from Bhagavan’s writings:

Uḷḷadu Nāṟpadu verses 24, 25 and 26

Ēkāṉma Pañcakam verse 1

Nāṉ Ār? paragraph 15

Śrī Aruṇācala Padigam verse 9

This episode can also be watched as a video: 2021-09-28 Robert and Michael discuss waking, dream, self-investigation and self-surrender.