Oto talked to Tāmaki Makaurau singer-songwriter of Bangladeshi origin, Sabreen, just after the release of her most recent single: Countryman. 

Countryman is a song that takes listeners on a narrative journey through the life of Joe Kum Yung, a retired miner of Chinese origin who came to Aotearoa in the early 20th century, who was murdered by a white supremacist.

Oto talked to Sabreen about the process she went through in writing the song, as well as why Joe Kum Yung's story resonated with her.