Walking in the Wilderness

Season 2 Finale! We're talking about clearing out what is no longer serving us, and transforming into new ways of being - in friendships and professional development.

Learn more about Bethany Zabiegalski's work as an adventurous living guide (life coach) at The Heart Wants Adventure. Learn more about Elizabeth Jeffries' work including her book Through the Kaleidoscope, the story of her departure from fundamentalist evangelical Christianity and her wholehearted embrace of her sense of natural wonder.

Theme music by DiLisio.

Recording Date: May 31, 2021

In this episode, Beth Z's partner, Anthony, takes over WIW and interviews Beth J on her 2019 book, Through the Kaleidoscope. You can purchase Beth J's book here: http://www.elizabethjeffrieswrites.com/kaleidoscope-book

Check out Beth Z's coaching website theheartwantsadventure.com

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Recording Date: April 10, 2021

Location: ElizaBETH on Shawandasse Tula/Shawnee land (now Brighton Heights, PA) & BETHany on Kumeyaay land (now Mission Point Park, San Diego, CA)

Beth J and Beth Z share about their personal experiences with religious deconstruction, specifically leaving the modern American Christian church of their upbringing. Beth J has found herself in a new phase in which her religious deconstruction is no longer occupying much space in her brain. It's a welcome new freedom, and has given her the opportunity to discover and enjoy new interests and pursuits. Together, the Beths explore what this means, including what moral standards they use now, how they grapple with the pain and regret that come from having invested so much time in an endeavor they no longer pursue, and how they explain their current religious and philosophical views to others. 

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Read Through the Kaleidoscope, by Elizabeth Jeffries

Recording Date: February 16, 2021

Location: ZOOM! Beth J on Shawandasse Tula/Shawnee land (now Pittsburgh, PA) & Beth Z on Hohokam land (now Waddell, AZ)

Theme Song by DiLisio

In this minisode, Beth J shares about the ways in which her understanding of romantic love has expanded over the course of her relationship with her husband. While her previous simple, transactional view of love was not exactly incorrect, it certainly would not have encompassed the dynamic interdependence that she's now come to enjoy. 

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Read Through the Kaleidoscope, by Elizabeth Jeffries

Recording Date: January 17, 2021

Location: Beth J on Shawandasse Tula/Shawnee land (now Pittsburgh, PA) & Beth Z on Tohono O'odham land (now Skyline Regional Park in Buckeye, AZ)

Theme Song by DiLisio

In today's episode, Beth Z and Beth J share their recent experiences delving into the ancient tradition of tarot. Together, they go over recent spreads they have both drawn for themselves, and share the insights they have gleaned from the readings.

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Read Through the Kaleidoscope, by Elizabeth Jeffries

Recording Date: December 18, 2020

Location: Zoom! Watch on YouTube

Embodiment and wellness can mean different things to different people, and the Beths agree that what's important is to define them for yourself. Beth J shares how her own practice of embodiment has transformed over the past few years, culminating in her most recent embodiment exercise: writing a letter to her body and writing a letter from her body to herself. At first, she shares, she cringed a bit at the thought of engaging with this exercise, imagining that it would be cheesy or silly. After going through the exercise, though, she discovered how freeing and grounding it is to recognize both the unity and the distinction between the body and the self. Beth Z discusses her own embodiment journey, exploring her decision to stop taking hormonal birth control and instead tracking data from her body in order to map her cycle. This journey has been both freeing and informative for her, allowing her to connect much more deeply with her body and to feel a closer connection with nature as well. For both Beths, the past several months have been ones of sinking deeper into their bodies, enjoying the sensations of living and aligning with natural cycles and patterns.

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Read Through the Kaleidoscope, by Elizabeth Jeffries

Recording date: December 6, 2020

Location(s): Beth J at Allegheny Commons Park West in PA, Beth Z at Litchfield Park, AZ

Theme Song by DiLisio

Talking about our relationships - Beth Z letting each partner be their own person, handle themselves. Beth J on learning to express your own needs and desires, coming out of Christianity

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Read Through the Kaleidoscope, by Elizabeth Jeffries

Recording date: November 27, 2020

Location(s): Beth z walking around a lake in Phoenix, AZ | Beth J in Pittsburgh, PA

Theme Song by DiLisio 

It's presidential election week in the US, and the two Beths continue Season 2 with a conversation about challenges, both global and personal, that they are learning to navigate. Beth J explores her role in the current American political scene and the frustration and pain that arise when human rights issues become politicized. Together, the Beths discuss their own political evolution and development, as this is just one type of wilderness that they are both learning to navigate. Beth J discusses an unexpected health challenge she faced during election week, and the way that chronic illness continues to shift her perspective and re-focus her energy on the things that she can personally manage and control. For better or for worse, this disease flare has served to distract her from global issues, and the Beths discuss the implications and outcomes of this distraction. As always, both Beths explore these challenges and encourage each other in their explorations. 

Learn more about Bethany Zabiegalski's work as a lifestyle coach and wilderness guide at The Heart Wants Adventure. Learn more about Elizabeth Jeffries' work at Elizabeth Jeffries Writes, including her book Through the Kaleidoscope, the story of her departure from fundamentalist evangelical Christianity and her wholehearted embrace of her sense of natural wonder. Beth Z is launching an 8-week group coaching program beginning February 2, 2021 that aims to key you into intuition, curiosity, and adaptability that will carry you ease-fully through any goal you choose to approach. Perfect timing as 90% of New Year's resolutions are abandoned in February!! Register at theheartwantsadventure.com/adventureworks. Podcast listeners can use promo code WIW for 30% off (use by midnight MST on January 31).

Recording Date: November 12, 2020

Location(s): Beth Z is on a golf course trail in Phoenix, AZ | Beth J is on a neighborhood walk in Brighton Heights, PA

Welcome to Season 2 of Walking in the Wilderness! This week, the Beths are hiking in two separate locations: Beth J is in Riverview Park in Pittsburgh, PA and Beth Z is in Washington Park in Denver, CO. Beth Z is officially traveling the country in her newly renovated tiny home, and she's adjusting to the new stresses and pressures of life on the road. Despite the challenges, she's grateful to have had the chance to make the decision to pursue this lifestyle, and build the life that she's chosen. For her, it all boils down to living life with intention: choosing the lifestyle that she wants and accepting the particular challenges that may come along with that. Beth J shares a story from her years in graduate school, when she came to a more full understanding of the power of her own agency. When Beth J was working toward her PhD, a key aspect of her motivation was her knowledge that she could quit at any time. It was through making the conscious choice to exercise her own agency that she discovered her own desire to continue this work, and ultimately graduated with a rich sense of satisfaction and confidence in her own abilities. Learn more about Bethany Zabiegalski's work as a lifestyle coach and wilderness guide at The Heart Wants Adventure. Learn more about Elizabeth Jeffries' work including her book Through the Kaleidoscope, the story of her departure from fundamentalist evangelical Christianity and her wholehearted embrace of her sense of natural wonder. Location: Riverview Park, Pittsburgh, PA and Washington Park, Denver, CO Record date: October 21, 2020