In this episode, we dive deep into one of the most critical skills for second-chair leaders: leading up. How can you influence your senior leader, your team, and your church when you’re not in the top position? We'll break down practical strategies for mastering influence, navigating difficult conversations, and building relational trust that strengthens your leadership impact. Whether you’re feeling overlooked or struggling with decision-making authority, this episode will equip you to lead with confidence, even when you're not in the lead chair.

It's time to stop feeling stuck and start leading up with purpose!

Being a second-chair leader is no joke. You’re in the trenches, doing the work, but often without the authority to make the big calls. If you’ve ever felt like you’re spinning your wheels trying to influence without authority, running on empty from burnout, or just plain feeling unseen—this episode is for you.