In the most East Asian podcast episode ever produced by the ABC, Michael Hing, Caz Tran and Jennifer Wong drop by to chat with Beverley Wang.

They talk about tackling assumptions, stereotypes, the "rep sweats" and Beverley's mum makes a prediction about podcasts.

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Wang, Wong, Hing, Tran and 'the deal' with (East) Asians

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Jenna Wortham and Wesley Morris are two culture writers at The New York Times — and co-hosts of the hit podcast, Still Processing.

They are pop culture commentary royalty, and on their first visit to Australia, Jenna and Wesley spoke to Beverley Wang on Stop Everything! for the only radio interview of their tour. 

As a special bonus for It's Not A Race, here's their full conversation.

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Bonus: Still Processing's Jenna Wortham and Wesley Morris

'Diversity' has become a popular talking point across all sectors of work, and diversity panels are regular fixtures of conferences, festivals and corporate events.

But once the talk is done, and the warm, self-satisfied glow of attending has worn off — where does the hard work begin?

For its season two finale, It's Not A Race teamed up with Audiocraft to present 'the diversity panel to end all diversity panels' with all-star guests Paola Balla, Santilla Chingaipe and Benjamin Law, live onstage with Beverley Wang, for a conversation about the double-edged sword of standing in for 'diversity' and where they would like to see the conversation progress.

Also featuring a musical performance by Yeo.

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The diversity panel to end all diversity panels, a live finale for season two!

Things can become very racist, very fast on social media. 

We talk to a self-styled online 'Nazi-hunter' about her unusual hobby. 

And Yassmin Abdel-Magied, Osman Faruqi, Benjamin Law, Kumi Taguchi and Jeremy Fernandez share their advice for dealing with racism online.  

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Race in the online space: Ben, Jez, Kumi, Osman, Yassmin and the Nazi hunter

Candy Bowers and Busty Beatz are showbusiness sisters and collaborators who tell it as they see it.

Fearless and unapologetic, they've long been vocal about the whiteness of arts institutions, and worked actively to critique representation from within and without.

They talk to It's Not A Race about the highs and lows of decolonising creative spaces.

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Candy Bowers and Busty Beatz are decolonising creative spaces

International student, comedian, actor, Daily Show senior correspondent — Ronny Chieng has inhabited all these roles in many different locations. 

Malaysia born, US, Singapore and Australia-educated, Ronny's now based in New York. 

The self-described "forever immigrant" and "political cyborg" spoke to It's Not A Race about the shifting terrain of identity, and how he uses comedy to flip the script on conventional narratives. 

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Wang, Wong, Hing, Tran and 'the deal' with (East) Asians

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