The Athletic's Ben Standig returns ahead of the Washington Commanders' preseason opener to talk football with two guests: rookie running back Brian Robinson and Hall of Famer Warren Sapp.

Ben opens the show with the latest from camp, including how much Ron Rivera anticipates playing the starters on Saturday at Fed Ex Field against the Panthers. Also, some positions to watch in the game. Seriously, will any tight ends be available?

Then Ben caught up with Robinson after Thursday's practice (9:50). They discuss the third-round pick's camp, getting his first taste of NFL game action and Robinson's shoe collection. From there, Ben is joined by Sapp (16:45), who returned to practice this week. What kind of growth does Sapp see with Jonathan Allen, Phidarian Mathis and the other linemen since mini-camp? Any chance he'd consider coaching, especially after the Sam Mills III firing?