Both Rishi Sunak and Liz Truss plan to usher in the return of grammar schools, but do they actually help provide opportunities to working class families? Patrick Maguire traces the history of the debate with Margaret Thatcher's Education Secretary Lord Baker, and asks Tory MP Jonathan Gullis why he thinks now is the right time to bring them back.

PLUS: James Marriott and Martha Gill on youthful optimism and friendship in politics.

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