🎧 You Don’t Owe Your Loyalty to the Wrong Room
We Are Women, Unapologetically — Season 2, Episode 3
Guest: Rachel Spekman, Founder of Made for More Coaching
If the room no longer fits, you’ve outgrown it.
And you don’t owe your loyalty to the wrong room.
In this episode, Jessica Cumming sits down with Rachel Spekman, founder of Made for More Coaching, for an honest conversation about alignment, identity, and what it really means to pivot with purpose. Together, they unpack how to leave rooms that no longer reflect your growth—without guilt or apology.
🎧 Listen now — and explore The Courage to Pause™, open this week for women ready to realign before their next big move.
The difference between growth and familiarity — and why comfort can become a cage
How to audit your own alignment using Rachel’s “internal résumé audit”
Why loyalty can hold high-achievers back from the rooms meant for them
What it really looks like to build a new identity after burnout or misalignment
How stillness creates precision, not pause
0:00 – 3:37 | Welcome + Rachel’s Career Story
Rachel shares her early career in education, the shift from teaching to after-school programs, and how her natural gift for leadership led her into entrepreneurship.
3:38 – 7:58 | Forced Transitions and The Universe’s Nudge
When tenure wasn’t renewed, Rachel reframed the experience as redirection. She shares how a moment in the ocean became her turning point.
8:06 – 10:35 | The Internal Résumé Audit
Rachel explains her “internal audit” method—how to measure time spent vs. happiness level in your daily work to find alignment.
10:36 – 12:15 | Resistance, Loyalty, and Letting Go
They discuss why 99% of people resist change and how permission begins with ourselves, not external validation.
12:16 – 16:50 | The Board of Advisors + The Role of Identity
Jessica and Rachel talk about creating your personal “Board of Advisors,” letting go of identity attachments, and finding grounded support during reinvention.
16:51 – 20:28 | Permission and the Power of Discomfort
Rachel’s take on the false comfort of “false pauses” and her reminder: change happens when we’re uncomfortable.
20:29 – 25:17 | Therapy, Self-Awareness, and the Classroom Within
Rachel reframes therapy as a “classroom in yourself” and shares how discomfort and stillness can become powerful teachers.
25:18 – 27:23 | Death by a Thousand Cuts
The subtle signals of stagnation: when work that once felt meaningful starts to feel misaligned.
27:24 – 30:33 | Designing a Dream Day
Practical ways to regain clarity and control by designing your ideal day—and comparing it to the one you’re living.
30:34 – 33:40 | The Hurry Culture + Breaking Up with the Instant Life
A grounded conversation about pace, presence, and intentional living.
33:41 – 37:33 | The Power of Presence and Permission
Rachel’s final reflections on being fully present, living intentionally, and her book recommendation How to Break Up With Your Phone.
“Change happens when we’re uncomfortable. The more uncomfortable we get, the more we realize nobody’s going to make this change except for me.”
— Rachel Spekman
Rachel Spekman is the founder of Made for More Coaching, helping high-performing professionals trade high-paid, soul-sucking careers for values-aligned work that still pays. With an MBA, startup leadership background, and clinical therapy experience, Rachel bridges clarity and courage to help people align their purpose and profession.
Connect: rachelspekman.com | madeformorecoach.com
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