Liz and Lisa belong to this member’s only club that no one wants to join. Liz lost her father first and four years later, Lisa’s passed away. They share their secret to getting through the painful loss of a dad: humor.

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Liz and Lisa have so many diaries between them that one podcast episode quickly turned into two. Now they are on their own for the first time at college, and confiding in their diaries rather than one another. Listen as they read from the same dates twenty-five years ago and realize they were not on the same page. (Pun intended!)

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Liz and Lisa peel back the pages—and layers—of the emotional teenage angst they wrote about in their high school diaries. Listen in as they share and dissect their innermost secrets and turmoil that includes poems and drawings!

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The Yucatan Peninsula is the perfect vacation spot with its white sand beaches, crystal-clear ocean water and delicious local food. And for Liz and Lisa, it was also the ideal setting for their fifth novel, Girls’ Night Out. Or so they thought! After they visited Chichen Itza, ancient Maya ruins considered to be highly mystical and spiritual, things began to unravel. They wondered if they were cursed.

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After two decades of friendship, Lisa moved two thousand miles away from San Diego to Chicago to get married. Liz and Lisa continued writing books together and actually saw each other more often than they did when they were living in the same city. You’ll learn why it wasn’t until Lisa’s re-entry back to SoCal that things got complicated.

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A lot has gone down over the years for Liz and Lisa at the blackjack table—and they’re not just talking about gambling! Find out what happened when they let their guards--and cards--down in Sin City.

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Liz and Lisa look back at Lisa’s serial monogamy dating highlight reel. Find out why Lisa was a magnet for men who were perfect on paper but lacked the commitment gene. And hear about Liz’s amazing ability to play therapist and talk her off the ledge every time she got dumped. (Which was a lot.)

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The year was 2013 and Liz and Lisa finally had an agent and a traditional publishing deal with Simon & Schuster. They traveled to New York City to meet their agent and editor for the first time. They even got a second book deal in the process. You’d think the rest of the story would be rainbows and unicorns, but oh no, that’s not how Liz and Lisa roll. You’ll have to listen to understand why they call this one The Interestings.

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In 2005, Liz and Lisa’s first manuscript, I’ll Have Who She’s Having, was rejected by every agent in the publishing industry. After a year of trying to get published—while one of them was pregnant and the other was a total emotional mess—they did what absolutely no smart aspiring authors would do. They hired Liz’s ex-boyfriend and his independent publishing company to bring their book into the world. What happened next? Cue all kinds of wrong.

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When they were told to shelter in place, Liz and Lisa leaned in hard. Quarantine would be their bitch. But, when that initial fervor to be productive wore off, they had to face reality: Their teens were disgruntled. Their favorite gym was closed indefinitely. Their homeschooling skills were crap. The walls of their homes were closing in. One miracle? They didn’t get into a single argument! Listen in as they take you through the highs and lows of their shelter in place.

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