We Should Talk About This on the Internet

We Should Talk About This on the Internet

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We Should Talk About This on the Internet episodes

  • EP.004 · We run Pine Works by talking to Bruce
    In EP.002 we told you about Bruce. This time we showed you. Bruce is our
    operations agent, an OpenClaw install that reads every Granola transcript and
    Discord thread we produce and keeps Studio, the internal tool he built and
    runs for us, up to date. Ryan asked him on air to add a prospect, and a few
    minutes later there it was. Everything on screen was a demo copy full of
    people Bruce made up for the occasion, so no, you're not in it. You're in the
    real one.
    Joe explains why off-the-shelf CRMs, built for HVAC companies counting wins
    and losses, never fit a consulting shop, and why Studio has two main
    characters instead: opportunities and people. Clients, collaborators, and old
    friends all live in the same rolodex, because around here they tend to turn
    into one another. He also walks through the games he plays with Bruce twice a
    week to keep everyone's people file fresh. We are on version seven of the
    games.
    Yesenia shows the business health dashboard she sketched on paper, refined in
    Claude Code, and handed back to Bruce to build, plus an experimental people
    view that treats the team like a little world instead of rows in a table.
    Anthony explains the trick underneath it all: Studio lives in Bruce's own
    working files on the same server, so the organizing happens once, when
    information comes in, not every time someone asks a question.
    We close on what's next (more agents with different jobs, branded PDFs on
    demand) and how to roll out an agent of your own: give it its own accounts,
    match the permissions your people already have, and never let it pretend to
    be a human.
    48 min
  • EP.003 · Is the CMS dead?
    This site has no CMS. Ryan built it with Claude Code, and when a stream ends
    he types one command that fetches the video, drafts the page, and opens a pull
    request. No entry form anywhere. So we asked the obvious question: is the CMS dead?
    The answer we landed on: the forms are dying, the work is not. Content
    modeling, constraints, and the review step all survive; they just move out of
    the admin panel and into the rails you build for an agent. Yesenia described
    an experiment with intent-based interfaces and "product primitives," Anthony
    argued the real shift is a database that reflects the true shape of your
    information instead of the shape a framework wants, and we learned about
    Hayden, Anthony's podcast-producer agent.
    46 min
  • EP.002 · Bruce works here now
    We finally introduce Bruce properly. He's the Pine Works agent, avatar of a
    certain Freehold, New Jersey singer-songwriter who moonlights as a park
    ranger, and he manages everything we were bad at keeping up with: the Notion
    updates, the Pipedrive fields, the notes from every call. Joe rates him 85 to
    90% as good as doing it himself, in a fraction of the time, which frees Joe up
    to be special Joe.
    We get into what Bruce actually is (an OpenClaw install on a small server,
    living alongside the studio site he manages), why our CRM makes people the
    main character instead of deals or spreadsheets, and the approval loop Joe
    still runs before any data changes: green light, red light. Somewhere in
    there Bruce observed that "people are always in scope." He came up with that
    himself. We're keeping it.
    Also in here: Joe's relationship games with Bruce (start, bench, or cut),
    what all this costs to run, talking to your wrist in the car, Yesenia on
    friction logs and the doorway effect, and why the site you're reading has no
    CMS. Agents publish it. Including this episode, which Ryan queued up on air.
    50 min
  • EP.001 · We should talk about this on the internet
    Anthony Colangelo, Yesenia Perez-Cruz, and Ryan Irelan dig into how AI is
    rewriting the rules of design and dev. Yesenia explains why she ditched static
    Figma mockups for live, code-based prototypes and how it lets clients feel the
    product instead of imagining it. The conversation turns to AI handling the
    "undifferentiated" grunt work (error handling, tests, busywork) so humans can
    focus on what actually sets their work apart. Then meet Bruce: Pine Works' AI
    agent that runs sales, project tracking, and internal docs automatically. No
    more stale Notion pages. Who wants to do data entry?! No one.
    A candid, funny, no-BS take on where design and dev are headed.
    50 min

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