Every Saturday at 1 PM ET, Ana Kasparian and Nando Vila broadcast live from the Jacobin YouTube channel. Weekends features free-flowing and humorous commentary on current events and political strategy. This is the podcast version of the show from June 5, 2021, with Jen Pan filling in for Nando.

Thomas Frank joins us to talk about the "lab-leak" theory, why it's appealing to a large number of people, media coverage, and its political and social implications. We also cover the homelessness crisis sweeping the country and how the Left needs to respond to mass deprivation.

Read Thomas Frank's latest: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jun/01/wuhan-coronavirus-lab-leak-covid-virus-origins-china

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