On this weeks show I spoke with Geopolitical expert Matt Gertken, PhD of BCA Research. Matt very generously jumped on a quick call to give us his latest thoughts on the Middle East turmoil.

There are signs of de-escalation but you have to look past the rhetoric. Both need an off-ramp but Trump needs it quickly. Iranian's also are gambling that they wont cause a global recession by disrupting the Hormuz strait. 

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