Katie: Hi I'm Katie I am a grateful recovering addict, I am a grateful sober person, I have been free from cutting for 8 months, I've been staying off of hard drugs for three and a half years and I have been clean off of weed for 8 months.

Ken: So what were some of the things that you were hoping to learn when we started talking?

Katie: I wanted to learn to love myself, I hated myself before I met you.

Ken: How did that come about? How did you start hating yourself?

Katie: My parents would shame me for being fat, They would even though my mom was bigger than me; She would tell me that I needed to lose weight. My family would shame me for binge eating, which I did to cover the hurt of them telling me I was fat.

Ken: What other things where you up and cover come with me start talking

Katie: I was hoping to overcome my cutting addiction.

Ken: Give us a little background on your cutting addiction. How did that look?

Katie: I started cutting at 10 years old my grandma died when I was seven and that devastated me and I started cutting. Then it started getting really bad when I was 14. That was when my sister who was 9 years old, found me in the bathtub full of orange bath water because I've bled almost out. She woke me up, she bandaged my wounds, dried me off and she put me in bed. She then told my parents that I was okay, but that I was asleep and I didn't want dinner. That's when I started going downhill even more, because two weeks later she started cutting and I blamed myself.

Ken: What was it that was causing all the cutting?

Katie: I felt like there was no other outlet for my pain, everybody was silencing me. I wasn't able to talk about my feelings.

Ken: Where do you think you would be if you hadn't gone through the “you have value” program?

Katie: I probably still be cutting myself, not knowing what to do with my life, Actually I’d probably be dead I had a suicide pact with  accouple people that I'm not going to name. But we were supposed to kill ourselves before we turned 20. I don't think without your program I’d still be alive to be telling you this story.

Ken; I am so glad that you did not keep that pact! Because there was pain right? I get it. There was a lot of pain that happened. I mean we get shamed from maybe parents or others from school. We get those feelings we get those emotions and there's so many of us that struggle in knowing how to deal with those.

Ken: Since we can't deal with them we bury those emotions and those emotions that are buried they never go away, they never die. So these emotions they're trying to get out on the surface and these actions that you were using, like drugs and all, were just trying to let out all those buried emotions. Now it is a really amazing thing to work through those, that takes a very strong person not everybody will do it. It is important to look at yourself and that is what this program is all about. Have the changes that we work together to introduce into your life have they continue to work for you?

Katie: Yes they have, the tools you gave me to help stop cutting the ice cube, the rubberband, I don't even have to use them anymore and I don't think about cutting.

Ken : What is the difference that the “you have value” program had?

Katie: It made me realize that I'm more than just my body, I've got Spirit, I've got a heart. I can think for myself instead of letting everybody else think for me.

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