In this episode, we talk with Robin DiAngelo about seeing whiteness. She is an educator, author, and consultant with over 20 years experience working on issues of racial and social justice. She teaches in the education department at the University of Washington. Her 2018 book, White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism, was a New York Times bestseller, and it's been translated into 13 languages. We spoke with Robin DiAngelo at the 2024 White Privilege Conference in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

In this episode, we talk with Edwin Cleophas about life for people of color in South Africa today, and about the work of his nonprofit organization, the Social Justice Agency. He's a longtime youth development specialist based in the Western Cape region of South Africa.

The White Privilege Conference (WPC) is a powerful and unique learning opportunity that invites participants to learn about and practice anti-racism.  This episode features short conversations with conference participants as well as some highlights from past interviews with WPC founder Dr. Eddie Moore Jr. Sideways Pod is a proud sponsor of the conference and we encourage the Sideways Pod community to check it out!  Click here to learn more about the conference and to register. Hope to see you there! 

In this episode, we talk with Sarah Leer about belonging and broadening diversity in traditional faith communities. Dr. Sarah Leer is a practical theologian who works with young people in the Presbyterian Church and in other faith-based institutions. Her work focuses on affirmation and deepening of belonging, especially in solidarity with LGBTQIA+ people. We spoke with Sarah Leer at the 2024 White Privilege Conference in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

In this episode, we talk with Ryan Virden about history and about the wound of whiteness. He's an educator, author, and the founder of LIR Cultural Coaching. We spoke with Ryan Virden at the 2024 White Privilege Conference.

In this episode, we talk with Christian Ortiz about using artificial intelligence to help improve communication and understanding around bias. He's an entrepreneur, founder of Mod Atlas Media, and the developer of Justice A.I.

In this episode, we talk with Heidi Burgess about intractable conflict and the challenges of dialogue. She is the co-founder and co-director of the Conflict Information Consortium. With her partner, Guy Burgess, they started the consortium while at the University of Colorado. Since their retirement, they continue to run it as an independent resource. They also maintain a website called Beyond Intractability.

In this episode, we talk with Mary Zinn about strategies for having difficult conversations and about how engaging in conflict can help us learn and grow. She's been involved in conflict resolution for well over 30 years as an activist, educator, and mediator. Mary Zinn is also a member of the Well That Went Sideways! production team.

In this episode, we talk with Durryle Brooks about centering love in racial justice work, and about how he approaches diversity and social justice learning opportunities for leaders through his organization, Love and Justice Consulting. He's also the author of Reconceptualizing Love: Moving Towards a Critical Theory of Love in Education for Social Justice. We spoke with Durryle Brooks at the 2024 White Privilege Conference in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

In this episode, we talk with Antonio Williams about the power of the N-word. He is the founder and president of Leaders at Work Consulting. Antonio Williams has worked in education for over 25 years as a teacher, a department chair, and a senior administrator. We spoke with him at the 2024 White Privilege Conference in Tulsa, Oklahoma.