After a year away, Conversations in Courage is back. In this relaunch episode, Ashley and Mark reflect on what’s changed since the podcast began five years ago, and what it means to return with deeper clarity and purpose.

They talk about:

• The tension between desire and infrastructure (and why we almost didn’t come back)
• Mark’s new Substack, Leaders Are Human and why he’s challenging performance-driven leadership
• Ashley’s own year of friction, growth, and the launch of her solo podcast Further Forward
• Why nuance, empathy, and difficult conversations matter more than ever in a polarized world

This episode is about returning, recommitting, and finding the courage to keep asking hard questions — about ourselves, each other, and the communities we’re building.

Conversations in Courage is where we lean into transformation, leadership, and social justice. If this episode moved you, share it with a friend and leave a review so more people can join us.

For more reflections, join us on Substack!

https://substack.com/@mindandmotion

https://substack.com/@leadersarehuman

Until next time—be well, be courageous.