After an unplanned hiatus (longer than intended—and yes, people noticed), Karen and Christy are back behind the mic!

This episode isn’t a deep-dive into systems or research. It’s a reset.

They unpack where they’ve been professionally, what’s shifted in their roles, and what they’re seeing differently now—especially after stepping out of (and back into) school leadership.

Underneath the humor and witty banter, they DO promise a clear throughline: Leadership perspective changes when your role changes, and what you value becomes much clearer with distance.