Happy Friday! This week’s encore episode is one from 2021, a conversation between Will Parker and Jen Schwanke about school discipline. Listen in to hear them talk about several different ways to approach consequences for student discipline, as well as some great advice and practical applications to approaching discipline. You can learn more by tuning in to their conversation or by reading the original blog post here. Thank you for doing what matters!

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—- The Question of the Week is supported by Summer Pops Math Workbooks.Principals, when students practice math over the summer, math scores go up. What’s your summer math plan this year? A great way to start is by ordering FREE summer workbook samples at Summer Pops Workbooks.com. —-

Before this week’s interview, Will Parker answers a question from a student in Jen Schwanke’s graduate class at OSU.

The question is: How did your leadership style evolve over the course of your principalship, and how did it impact the way you managed human capital? (Question from Emily Jeans, Teacher, Student in Education Master’s program at the Ohio State University)

Listen in to hear his response and thank you for doing what matters!

Donna Hayward began her professional career as a high school mathematics teacher after earning her Bachelors and Masters degrees from Smith College.  Inspired by her own high school principal, Donna completed her Sixth Year through UCONN and served as Assistant Principal/ Principal of Rocky Hill High School for a decade. During this time, she markedly increased Advanced Placement opportunities and standardized test scores and reduced discipline, leading to her presentation of effective strategies at the State’s annual data conference and the NASSP’s national conference.  

She was honored as the Connecticut Assistant Principal of the Year in 2006.  Donna then served as Principal of Suffield High School for six years, during which time she opened a new Agriscience center and led her school to exceed prior academic performance in all areas.  She now serves as Principal of Haddam Killingworth High School which earned the National Blue Ribbon in her fourth year. Donna was named the CT Principal of the Year in 2022 and is the NASSP’s National Principal of the Year for 2023. From this platform, she has advocated for educators in Washington, DC and across the country to elevate educators and public education, secure more mental health support for young people, protect teachers and administrators from defamation on social media, and support women in leadership. She is a keynote speaker and frequent presenter on topics ranging from how to incorporate storytelling in advocacy, developing and leading with student voice, leveraging leadership with all stakeholders, digital safety for educators, and empowering women in the educational workplace.

This podcast features an interview with Donna Hayward, the 2023 NASSP National Principal of the Year. Hayward’s career path, from high school math teacher to nationally recognized principal, highlights a journey of hard work, challenges, achievements and advocacy work. In this episode, she tackles some critical issues faced by educators today, such as increasing workloads, staff shortages, and the politicization of education. She also offers a few tips for self-care, finding joy in the profession, and advocating for a positive impact for children. 

Hayward describes her path to becoming National Principal of the Year as unexpected and unplanned. She was initially unaware of her nomination and almost missed a crucial call from NASSP CEO Ronn Nozoe informing her that she was a finalist. The experience involved travel and meetings with educators across the US and internationally. The distinction as National Principal of the Year did come with challenges, including maintaining a full-time job as a principal while fulfilling the demands of the award. Hayward discusses the difficulty of balancing her responsibilities at her home school while engaging in national advocacy work and traveling extensively.

Her work, both at her high school and through her travels and conversations with other educators, lend themselves to a conversation with Jen about the unique challenges faced by women in leadership, particularly the balance between work and family life. Donna, a single mother, shares a poignant anecdote about her daughter’s understanding and support for her demanding career. She emphasizes the importance of teamwork and collaboration between male and female colleagues to support women in leadership roles.

Next, Donna identifies several universal challenges faced by school leaders, including the ever-growing workload, teacher and administrator shortages, and the politicization of education. She stresses the need for educators to reconnect with their “why” and advocate for their schools and students. Jen and Donna acknowledge the societal anxieties projected onto schools and the need for educators to counter negative narratives surrounding education. They advocate for celebrating the positive impact educators have on children’s lives and promoting teaching as a fulfilling career path.

Finally, Donna considers the importance of self-care for educators, emphasizing the need for basic necessities like sleep, nutrition, and exercise. She also notes that experience makes the job easier over time, allowing for a better balance between work and personal life. Similarly, Jen challenges the notion that education is a sacrificial career that leaves educators depleted. Both she and Hayward stress the importance of finding fulfillment and joy in the work while maintaining personal well-being. They also emphasize the value of seasoned educators continuing to contribute to the profession even after retirement.

Donna hopes listeners will reach out to her, as she is eager to support and collaborate with educators all around the world!

You can stay connected with Donna Hayward through these avenues:

Thank you for learning together, and thank you for doing what matters!

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This week on Monday Matters, Will and Jen talk about professional pathways for educators and getting through the end of the school year. They discuss strategies for powering through what Will and Jen call the “slog” at the end of the school year, and share how they have each adjusted their mindset to have a more positive outlook towards the “slog”.

Next, Will shares some insights from his new book, Whose Permission Are You Waiting For? An Educators Guide to Doing What You Love. He addresses some factors that make the education career path unique and different from others. For example, according to a study done by the Economic Policy Institute (2023), teachers on average earn 73.6 cents for every dollar made by other professionals with their educational achievements. He also speaks about the different career options that are available within the field of education. Two of the questions he asks individuals exploring their career options within the field of education are: 

Jen chimes in and explains that as students, we saw a lot of teachers, whereas we rarely saw a person in an administrative role in action. She then shares a mistake that people often make (including herself) is trying to overly plan their careers. Her advice to listeners is, “Be ready for the job you might want.”

Listen in to hear the entire conversation and to hear some great takeaways on professional pathways for educators. Thank you for doing what matters!

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Happy Friday! Our encore episode this week is one from 2021, another interview with D.J. Klein. His interviews on this show are popular for a reason; he always has sage advice to offer listeners! Check out this interview to hear him share ten lessons he learned in his first year as an assistant principal. Listen in to hear the whole conversation or follow this link to read the original blog post. Thank you for doing what matters!

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—- The Question of the Week is supported by Summer Pops Math Workbooks.

Principals, when students practice math over the summer, math scores go up. What’s your summer math plan this year? A great way to start is by ordering FREE summer workbook samples at Summer Pops Workbooks.com. —-

Before this week’s interview, Jen Schwanke and Will Parker answer a listener question with a five minute response. 

The question is: How did your leadership style evolve over the course of your principalship and how did it impact the way you manage human capital?

Listen in to hear their response and thank you for doing what matters!

John Marinucci currently serves as the Principal of St Francis College, a role he has held since 2019. St Francis College is a contemporary Catholic school located in Logan City, on the southern edges of Brisbane, Australia. The institution is deeply rooted in Franciscan values, emphasizing simplicity and harmony in its educational approach.

Before his appointment as Principal, John was the Head of Campus for grades 7 to 12 at St Francis College. His leadership experience also includes significant roles at Carmel College in Thornlands and St Mary’s College in Ipswich. John holds a Master of Educational Leadership from the Australian Catholic University, a Bachelor of Business Accountancy from the Queensland University of Technology, and a Diploma of Teaching from Mt. Gravatt College of Advanced Education, now a part of Griffith University.

Outside his professional life, John enjoys crosswords, sudoku, camping, and spending quality time with his wife and three adult children. 

John’s career reflects a deep commitment to educational leadership and the nurturing of future leaders within the Catholic education system. His contributions continue to shape and inspire the community at St Francis College and beyond. Something that listeners may be surprised to learn about him is that he spoke Italian at home, so when he started school, he only had a vocabulary of about six English words. 

When asked what inspired his current work, John cites a love for the relationship building that comes with working in education. He has spent 35 years on and off working in education. At one point in his career, John left the field of education, but decided to come back because he missed the relationships he was able to build with young people through his work. Unquestionably, John is committed to serving students and families from all kinds of cultural and religious backgrounds. Currently, his school serves five of the eight poorest communities in Queensland. 

The values that John’s school is rooted in are called Franciscan values, emphasizing simplicity and harmony in its educational approach. One way that his school approaches the values of simplicity and harmony is through teaching students how to get along with people who are not like them. John says that students at his school have about twenty different faiths among them, which contributes to the students learning to be tolerant of people who are different from them. Another way that John’s school practices simplicity and harmony is by increasing parents’ involvement by celebrating student achievement. John emphasizes that things can be complex, but not complicated, and discusses the practice of seeking to make things simpler, not easier.  

When thinking about tips he has for school leaders on time management, John points out that he, like many school leaders, has a tendency to overcommit. Nevertheless, John states that he tries to keep his days balanced. He carves out time before and after school each day for work so that he can dedicate his time during the school day to staff and students. Furthermore, John makes sure to take time each morning going for a walk with his dog, and he uses that time for meditation or to plan his day.

As he considered what advice he would give to a new leader, John offered several pieces of sage advice. First, John talks about the importance of always treating people with dignity and respect. He states that genuinely caring about people helps foster a culture of trust and respect. Second, John emphasizes that leaders need to embrace change and see it as an opportunity for growth. Third, he tells listeners that they should always communicate the bad to people, as they will always find out what is going on, and it should come from you. John reminds listeners that hard conversations are really crucial conversations. Next, John says that young leaders must find a mentor who can guide you along the way. Finally, he reminds new leaders of the importance of really getting to know the people who work for you.

John’s advice to veteran leaders is to constantly remind yourself that you’re making a difference. He also discusses using the holiday break as a way to examine and evaluate why he does this work. Constantly setting new goals helps reignite his passion and keeps him motivated in his work for the long haul.

Listeners can stay connected to John via Linkedin or through email: [email protected]

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Happy Monday, friends! This week for Monday Matters, Jen and Will are taking some time to catch up and talk about the exciting work we have been doing recently. 

Jen talks about a presentation she gave recently. By the time this recording comes out, she will have returned from speaking at national school boards association with some of her colleagues. They are presenting about their social worker cohort, an idea dreamed up by Jen’s superintendent and brought to life by Jen and her colleagues. Essentially, this program is for teachers who want to get a masters in social work. This ensures that graduates from the program will have the classroom experience that is critical for guidance counselors and social workers for understanding school based interventions. The social worker cohort program was a resounding success; the program had over a hundred applicants and 25 ended up going through the program. The masters program itself is rigorous, and at the end of the program the students will be guaranteed job placement as a social worker within the school district. Listen to the episode to hear all the amazing details about this program!

Will talk about his new book, Whose Permission Are You Waiting For? An Educator’s Guide to Doing What You Love. He talks about wanting to share with listeners why he wrote this book. When summarizing why he wrote the book, Will says that he has spent the last several years coaching high-achieving school leaders. As he was coaching leaders, he found himself giving advice on similar themes. Eventually, Will says that he realized he should write down the advice he keeps giving to leaders, recognizing that other leaders he is not coaching may be struggling with the same issues as the leaders he is coaching. Drawing on his experience, and the experience of others, Will wrote 20 different chapters that will help transform the work and lives of school leaders. Tune in to hear more about Will’s new book or purchase your copy here.

Thank you for doing what matters! 

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Welcome back to Encore Friday! This week’s episode is one from 2021, a conversation with Jen Schwanke about gaining buy-in and building leadership teams. Tune in to hear us answer the following questions from principals:

Listen in to hear the entire episode, or follow this link to read the original blog post. Thank you for doing what matters!

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—- The Question of the Week is supported by Summer Pops Math Workbooks.

Principals, when students practice math over the summer, math scores go up. What’s your summer math plan this year? A great way to start is by ordering FREE summer workbook samples at Summer Pops Workbooks.com. —-

Before this week’s interview, Jen Schwanke and Will Parker answer a listener question with a five minute response. 

The question is: How can we build stronger partnerships with community organizations?

Listen in to hear their response and thank you for doing what matters!

T.J. Vari is the Senior Director of Product Strategy at MaiaLearning and a former Deputy Superintendent, Principal, Assistant Principal, and High School English Teacher. He spent 20 years in public education before transitioning to the position he currently holds. His master’s degree is in School Leadership and his doctorate is in Innovation and Leadership. He holds several honors and distinctions, including his past appointment as President of the Delaware Association for School Administrators and the Paul Carlson Administrator of the Year Award. He teaches educational leadership courses at the master’s and doctoral levels. 

T.J’s passion is college and career readiness. He has co-authored 6 books, including his latest two 7 Mindshifts for School Leaders and Invest In Your Best. He is a national presenter on school leadership and college and career readiness,  and he’s the co-founder of TheSchoolHouse302, a leadership development institute.

Dr. Vari strongly believes that it is important to ensure that every student has a post-secondary plan. It is important for educators to recognize that this is an equity problem: privileged kids are talking about their post-secondary plans very young whereas other kids are not. One method that helps students create a post-secondary plan is advisory periods, ensuring that there is space in the student day to do some work making post-secondary plans. T.J. calls educators to think about how they are intentionally introducing these conversations with their students. 

As a coach and leader of leaders, Dr. Vari says that the answer to helping students reach their best outcomes is through school leadership. He often works with school leaders to build their capacity to change things. This work is important because the education system was never built to do what is best for all students. The education system, as it works currently, was built to dole out privilege. It takes a leader who is willing to challenge the status quo and is willing to make change happen for the system to benefit all students. T.J. coaches leaders to read about change in order to understand management and change models. He emphasizes that change is not going to happen naturally, leaders need to learn how to make change happen if they want everyone of their students to benefit from school. 

T.J. discusses why examining and reflecting on one’s motivations can be a helpful practice when it comes to decision making. His personal philosophy is that “Somebody’s going to have to go first, so it might as well be me”. There are a lot of people waiting around for someone to tell them to change instead of actually changing. The job of a leader is to make incremental changes each day that will eventually lead to massive change. Part of making that change in education is asking what kids really need to be successful in life. One big area that educators need to focus on is helping students learn how to read. A lot of people who are in trouble in this country either do not read well or cannot read at all. Another need that students have is a need to feel valued and that they have a purpose. This need can be met through using career exploration as a part of SEL. Understanding what students need in order to be successful can make decision making for leaders easier in the long run. 

Dr. Vari offers up three pieces of advice for new and aspiring school leaders. The first is time blocking. Every leader has a vision for what their day is supposed to look like. Time blocking allows leaders to use their time for a specific task. In order to successfully time block, everything needs to go on the calendar, and leaders should try to block their whole day or even their whole week out in advance. The second piece of advice T.J. offers is the strategy of reverse time blocking. To do this, leaders need to take out what was going to be in a calendar block and put what actually happened there. This requires a time of reflection each week to figure out what is derailing the leader’s schedule. T.J. emphasizes that reflection is what will help leaders improve how they are using their time. Finally, T.J tells leaders to ask themselves if they should really be the person to do all the things in their calendar. This helps determine what tasks can be delegated to other people on your team and will allow leaders to fill up their calendars with the things they really want to be doing. 

Resource: The Happiness Box by Sam Horn

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Hi, friends. This week for Monday Matters, Jen and I are taking some time to talk about an exciting new offering from Principal Matters, led by Jen Schwanke! Based on her book, The Principal’s Guide to Conflict Management, Jen will be leading a 3-hour masterclass on June 3rd, 2025, at 11 am EDT. This dynamic virtual training equips school leaders with practical strategies to transform conflict from a dreaded challenge into an opportunity for growth. Through interactive workshops and reflective sessions, participants will learn to shift their mindset towards embracing conflict, understand its various forms, and master a three-step “Anticipate, Analyze, Act” cycle for effective resolution. The program addresses common school conflicts, emphasizes empowering others to manage disputes, and even explores personal accountability in conflict situations, providing attendees with immediate, actionable tools to build a positive and resilient school environment. Register at https://williamdparker.com/guide/. Listen in to hear more about the masterclass. We look forward to learning and growing with you!

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Happy Friday, friends! This week, we are re-releasing an episode from 2022, an interview with a rockstar leader DJ Klein. DJ Klein has been featured on the podcast several times throughout the years and he is still doing the same phenomenal work in 2025 that he was doing in 2022. Listen in to hear the full episode or follow this link to read the original blog post. Thank you for doing what matters!

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