Jay and Austin are back for another episode of their podcast that has definitely always been called We're Just Two Guys (and We're Having a Good Time). This time they discuss science fiction, what good sci-fi looks like, what sci-fi is good for, and what sci-fi actually is in the first place. They move the discussion through some of their favorite shows and books like The Lathe of Heaven, Star Trek, Hyperion, Brave New World, and The Three-Body Problem. They end up getting into religion and vow to start a new band called Minutiae Dick Measuring Contest. The intro and outro song is Astro Turf by Purple Funk Metropolis.