In this wide-ranging conversation, criminal psychologist and author Peter Sacco shared his diverse career experiences, including his work in television, music, and writing, as well as his expertise in criminal psychology. Sacco discussed his theories about historical cases like Jack the Ripper and the O.J. Simpson trial, while also exploring the intersection of psychology, magic, and hypnosis. The discussion touched on various topics including the nature of reality, the impact of technology on belief systems, and the complexities of human behavior. Sacco also promoted his books, including works on anger types and serial killers, and shared insights from his research in criminal psychology.

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Wes and Natalie discussed various scheduling challenges and health issues, including an upcoming show cancellation due to weather and Natalie's ongoing health concerns. Natalie shared her experiences with medical appointments and testing for liver enzyme issues, while also discussing Wes' teaching activities and social media management challenges. The conversation concluded with updates about Wes's involvement with a show choir, his blog and Patreon content. Wesiseli.com

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Donna Horn shared her journey from teaching to becoming a renowned cake decorator and confectionery artist, including her invention of wafer mache and creation of elaborate cakes for high-profile events. She detailed her experiences making custom cakes for the White House, Kennedy Center, and various other prestigious occasions, showcasing her unique blend of magic-themed elements and artistic creativity. Despite facing recent health challenges, Donna remains committed to her craft and discussed plans for future projects, including a magic show at the House of Magic.

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Wes and Natalie shared updates about their recent activities, including family celebrations, show performances, and personal milestones like the twins' first day of preschool and Lana's return to musical theater classes. They discussed their podcast's year in review, highlighting notable guests and episodes from 2025 while reflecting on successful shows and memorable interviews with magicians and entertainers.

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Wes and Natalie shared their Christmas experiences, including family traditions, performances, and gift-giving, while noting that their children were unwell during the holiday season. Natalie discussed her work with clients, including creating custom New Year's plans and setting up a weekly Zoom meeting for accountability.

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Wes and Natalie shared updates about their family's Christmas preparations, including shopping experiences, a successful gingerbread house project with their children, and the adoption of two kittens as an early birthday gift for their daughter. They discussed the completion of Natalie's nutrition certification and her plans to launch her nutrition business on January 1st. The conversation also covered Natalie's master's degree completion with a 4.0 GPA and the family's anticipation of high-speed fiber internet installation. Additionally, they reflected on their church's impromptu Christmas pageant & more... wesiseli.comPatreon.com/wes_iseli

In this episode we celebrate Natalie getting her masters in nutrition. We recap her year of studying and the sacrifices we all made. We ended the podcast saying while her classes were wrapping up we starting doing more family activities again and Christmas activities.

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In this podcast interview, Wes and Natalie hosted Andy Gross, a renowned ventriloquist and magician, to discuss his career journey from professional racquetball player to full-time entertainer. Andy shared his early fascination with ventriloquism sparked by the movie "Magic," and detailed his transition from sports to entertainment, including memorable experiences at comedy clubs and corporate shows. He highlighted his viral YouTube videos and the unexpected success of his Amazon Prime special, "Andy Gross: Are You Kidding Me?" The conversation also covered Andy's extensive collection of ventriloquist dummies, his upcoming documentary filming with illusion builder Johnny Gaughan.

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Nate shared his journey from a late start in magic at age 17 to becoming a professional performer, discussing his recent experiences at various events and performances. The conversation covered Nate's upcoming engagements, including a Hanukkah party show and morning television appearances, while also touching on his personal connection to magic through a card trick he created after a basketball injury. Nate and Wes discussed his career aspirations in magic, including his goal to perform full-time, while also exploring his experiences with karaoke and card collections, and concluded with a discussion about his future plans and recent performance feedback.wesiseli.comPatreon.com/wes_iseli

Wes and Natalie shared updates about their Halloween and Jurassic Park-themed parties, including decorations and party activities, while discussing their holiday preparation plans including Christmas tree shopping and home organization. Wes shared personal experiences about academic challenges related to AI usage in papers and his involvement with his daughter's homeschooling activities. The conversation ended with Natalie announcing the launch of her nutritionist and health coach business, offering personalized coaching services starting January 1st.

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