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We’re Jan Smith and Mark Rumbles—longtime colleagues and friends with a shared passion for leadership development. In this season, we bring real conversations to life as we explore the messiness, meaning, and mastery of leadership in practice. No scripts. No perfection. Just jazz-inspired, practical discussions on what it really takes to lead yourself and others.
By Jan Smith & Mark RumblesWe’re Jan Smith and Mark Rumbles—longtime colleagues and friends with a shared passion for leadership development. In this season, we bring real conversations to life as we explore the messiness, meaning, and mastery of leadership in practice. No scripts. No perfection. Just jazz-inspired, practical discussions on what it really takes to lead yourself and others.