Arif Hasan, is a city planner and architect with years of experience under his belt, he was the chairperson for the Orangi Pilot Project and Urban Resource Center. He has received a Hilal-e-Imtiaz for Public Service.  Arif sahab comes on the podcast to discuss his beloved city, and its many problems, from the recent flooding to forced evictions, from the lack of local governance to the demands of making Karachi a federal territory, Arif sahab discuses the past, present and future of Karachi.  This episode has been co-hosted by Ahmad Khan, a architecture graduate from NCA Lahore, currently working in New York.  The Pakistan Experience is a podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan, and Pakistanis, through the lost art of conversation.