"On paper, Ben's career was over before it started, but we place people, not resumes, and I gave him an interview."

Following the release of Never Give Up," Rick Barnett joined us on the podcast to discuss his take on resilience and his chapter in the book. Rick's chapter entitled "What Ben Said," shares his personal and professional experiences that have led him to appreciate the power of persistence and determination.

So sit back, relax, and enjoy another enlightening conversation from one of the brightest minds in business.