What can we learn from #Ellen about kindness? In Episode 60 of the Divorce University Online Podcast, we discuss Ellen's recent stance on kindness and how she's been attacked in the media for it. More importantly, we dive into the similarities between these events and divorce. How can you model Ellen's behavior to help you in your divorce or child custody case? Tune in now to find out! For more information please visit us at divorceuniversityonline.com. Thank you for listening!