Is it poetry, is it spoken word, is it rap?  You're not a loser if you can't quite tell.  What we all DO know is that Beck and this song are EPIC.

120 Minutes Interview

Official Video- Loser

NPR Interview 

Art by Kitty Sopow

Ask Aunt Tracy on Youtube

Tune in for what is possibly the most ironic song ever written and see if Carly Simon ever told us who she meant by that?  Are you vain enough to think it's about you?  

Live performance of You're So Vain

NBC Interview 1994

Regis and Kelly 2004

Art by Kitty Sopow

****TRIGGER WARNING****  This episode contains discussions of suicide, mental illness, and gun violence

Today we dive into a classic, yet unsettling hit from 1991, from the grunge masters, Pearl Jam.  Tune in to hear the story behind the song, and the tragedy that inspired Eddie Vedder.

Suicide Hotline

Jeremy Official Video

Rock N Roll Hall of Fame Induction Speech

Jeremy Wade Delle Website

Interview with Jeremy Wade Delle's Mother

Art by Kitty Sopow

Ask Aunt Tracy YouTube Channel

In this Episode, Christine explains what the iconic Boy George meant when he wrote this unique love song.  Also, you won't believe how this talented artist stood up to scrutiny when he become instantly famous at such a young age.    

Phil Donahue Appearance 

60 Minutes 1984 

60 Minutes 2019

David Letterman 1998 

Karma Chameleon Video

Rainbow Kitten Surprise, "Devil Like Me" Video

Art by Kitty Sopow

In this episode, Christine gets Julia a little teary eyed and goose bumpy talking about a song by our beloved Counting Crows. "Long December" just might be a holiday song. Who knew? 

Long December Video

August and Everything After Album

Recovering the Satellites Album

Ask Aunt Tracy Channel on Youtube

Art by Sopowart

This is a classic, melomaniacs.  We all knew Phil Collins was a legend, but we take a deep dive into this song and the urban legend behind it.  You don't want to miss this one.  What on earth did he really mean by that?

Original video

Holly McNarland Cover

Reaction video

Jimmy Fallon interview

Top of the Pops Performance

This week, Julie surprises Christine with a song's dark lyrics, originally sang in a noncongruent way, then re-recorded with a haunting vibe matching the deeply intellectual lyrics.

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Original version of Mad World

Gary Jules version of Mad World

Interview with Tears for Fears

Art by Kitty Sopow at Sopowart

In the first episode of What Did They Mean By That, the sisters launch the podcast with a song everyone knows, but very few understand.  We'll dive into some of the strangest lyrics ever recorded, speculate on the meaning, and then take a historical look to dissect what the writer really meant by that.  And, bonus...this song has an urban legend behind it, one we've all accepted but never understood.

Listen as Christine blows Julia's mind, and most likely, yours too.