Welcome back to the What Happened at First Baptist podcast. In this episode, we reflect on God’s kindness in carrying us through difficult years and how He’s now using our story to help pastors, leaders, and churches all over the world. The focus of this new season is on ministry teams because none of us were meant to do this work alone. Pastor Heath and Spencer share candidly about the dangers of competition, the temptation to love our ministry more than we love people, and the essential truth that real excellence comes not from steamrolling others but from loving them well. With Scripture as our guide, we talk about correction, gentleness, patience, and the balance of truth and love that builds healthy, Christ-honoring teams.

Join Pastor Heath Lambert on September 15 for candid conversations on one of ministry's toughest roles: leading teams. From balancing loving others well while striving for excellence, having hard yet loving conversations, and receiving correction from spiritual leaders are just some of the real dilemmas we'll tackle together. Don't miss it!

Thank you so much for listening to the What Happened at First Baptist Podcast! We hope this has been a blessing to you and please enjoy this bonus episode of Pastor Heath and his wife Lauren.

This episode will include:

- How much of what happened at First do you attribute to spiritual warfare? How important is it to recognize Satanic opposition in ministry? 

- We hear a lot of people talking about theological triage and which doctrines are most important for Christian leaders to address in their ministries. This episode gets me wondering about ministry triage. How can we know which ministry issues need to be addressed right away and which ones can wait? 

- How has the sexuality statement “aged” at our church? In the community?  

- The historic way that First Baptist engaged with our city was through door-to-door evangelism. How does First Baptist engage with the city and share the gospel today?  

- You took a stand about sexuality because you say in the podcast that it is the greatest sin in American culture. From where you are sitting – what are the biggest issues facing American Christianity that pastors must be prepared to engage with? 

- One pastor wrote in who is leading a church of a comparable size to ours that is healthy and thriving asked: “What is the biggest threat to large churches going into the future?” 

- God works everything together for good. What are some of the good things that he has done at First Baptist through all the struggles we have gone through? 

- What are you most excited about when you think about the future of First Baptist?  

This episode will feature:

- First Corinthians 16:13-14 says, “Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.”

- In order to lead well in a God-honoring way, one must wisely strike a balance between solid convictions and compassionate care.

- Dr. Lambert will talk about how to be “tender and tough” as he shares the wisdom gained from taking a stand for truth in FBC’s Statement on Biblical Sexuality.

- If you have any questions or would like more information about what was discussed on this episode, please submit your questions to [email protected], we would love to hear from you!

This episode will feature:

- By the fall of 2022, by and large, First Baptist was on the other side of the hardships of change with a renewed sense of joy in the church.

- However, cultural developments, especially in the city of Jacksonville, called for the church to take a stand for the truth through FBC’s Statement on Biblical Sexuality.

- How was this statement received both inside and outside the church? And how did First Baptist respond to the attention received?

- If you have any questions or would like more information about what was discussed on this episode, please submit your questions to [email protected], we would love to hear from you!

This episode will include:

- During the hard days, there were a lot of personal attacks on you, some of the most heartbreaking parts of the podcast; however, are when you talk about the impact on your family. One listener wrote in and asked how you and your wife separated the roles of being a pastor and pastor’s wife from the roles of being dad and mom. Can you talk about how you did that?

- Part of the time of transition at First Baptist involved downsizing our staff. You talk about this in episode 5 and reference it again in episode 6. One listener wrote in response to this information and asked about the nuts and bolts of hiring and firing in a church context. Particularly, they asked about the use of NDA's. They wanted to know if it's biblical for Christian churches and organizations to use NDAs and if that’s part of our hiring and firing process at First Baptist.

- One listener wrote in response to all the sinful behavior that occurred toward you and our church during the time of transition. They asked about the role of church discipline at this time. Were any members pursued or disciplined by the church for their divisive behavior?

- In episode 6, you encourage people to not have a consumer mentality with church but then say it is okay for some people to leave when the preferences that brought them to the church in the first place have been radically altered but the core might still be faithful. These two things seem contradictory, could you help me think through more of the details of what you are trying to say?

- You said in the leadership podcast this week about mistakes you made that you should have left because of the weight it was on your family. There are many pastors who are constantly evaluating this in their lives. Can you give some principles on evaluating when this is too much on their family?

- There are people listening to this podcast, who have unrestored relationships but who deeply desire restoration. I know that is part of your story. What encouragement would you give people in a similar position to you?

This episode will feature:

- In leadership, it is inevitable that your plans will change, and failures will happen around you that are outside of your control. This was true for FBC as COVID hit in the spring of 2020.

- As the external failures increase, your leadership weaknesses will show, and you are going to come up short as a leader.

- Dr. Lambert shares twelve mistakes that he made as a leader and the many lessons he learned the hard way through those tumultuous years.

- If you have any questions or would like more information about what was discussed on this episode, please submit your questions to [email protected], we would love to hear from you!

This episode will feature:

- In the spring of 2020, the complex changes at First Baptist were made even more difficult as the global impact of COVID affected all the plans for revitalization. 

- Yet while the situation got increasingly tumultuous, Dr. Lambert chose to stay and shares several reasons why you should try to stay at a church going through change, as well as some legitimate reasons why it might be time to leave, and bits of advice on how to leave well.

- First Baptist Church members will testify to the great things that the Lord has done and the blessing they now see on the other side of the trials of change.

- If you have any questions or would like more information about what was discussed on this episode, please submit your questions to [email protected]. We would love to hear from you!