You’ve invested in the training. You’ve named the values. And yet… problematic behavior persists. Now what?

In this timely and candid episode, Sanita Kumar and Fong Marcolongo tackle a tough and common question in the DEI world: Why doesn’t equity training automatically lead to equity-aligned behavior, and what can we do about it?

They explore:

Why training is only one step in a longer change process

The three types of staff responses to equity work: aligned, uncertain, and resistant

How lack of accountability undermines even the best training investments

What leaders must do to shift culture, not just check a box

How to break change into small, coachable steps that build trust and long-term impact

Whether you’re a DEI leader, HR professional, or just someone tired of performative gestures with no follow-through, this episode offers clear insight—and real tools—for moving beyond intention and into transformation.

🎧 Tune in now and learn how to make equity work stick—for real.