This week, host Ian Heller opens with a question most of us avoid: where does all the rage go? Not the big explosions - the quiet, simmering kind that leaks out sideways at the dinner table, or builds until it finds the worst possible moment to erupt. Ian's answer might surprise you. Then Ian is joined by Jack Holloway - writer, musician, minister, dog walker, and the creator of Despair Sanctuary, a drone metal vigil for public grief held inside a historic Gothic church in Brooklyn.
Jack is also the author of Hands of Doom: The Apocalyptic Imagination of Black Sabbath, and he makes a genuinely compelling case that doom metal, slow, sludgy, foreboding, might actually be one of the better ways to navigate despair. Sometimes the path through misery is to let yourself feel miserable, and to do it alongside other people who are feeling it too. Together, Ian and Jack explore the toxic positivity that tells us to shake it off, why suppressed grief and rage always find their level eventually, and what happens when you give people a nondenominational, no-agenda safe space to collectively scream. The conversation stretches into history, Marx, the Constitution, and what it means that we only seem to make big changes after catastrophe - bringing it all full circle back to despair, and what we might do with it before it does something with us.
The next Despair Sanctuary is Saturday, August 15th at 8pm at Old First Reformed Church - a stunning historic Gothic church just blocks from Prospect Park in Park Slope, Brooklyn. 729 Carroll St, Brooklyn, NY.
More info: oldfirstbrooklyn.org/arts/despair-sanctuary