Leading People

What if the way we build organisations is no longer fit for purpose?


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Gerry Murray speaks with organisational psychologist and Chief Scientist at AIHR, Dieter Veldsman, about how to redesign work for a more human future. 

Drawing on his new book Work for Humans, Dieter shares why employee experience (EX) is much more than a buzzword, and how to make it a philosophy, a process, and a practice.

Together, they discuss:

• Why EX is now a core leadership issue, not just an HR function

• How to measure EX meaningfully — without making it overly soft or overly rigid

• The role of technology in either amplifying or eroding human experience

• Why frontline workers must be central to any EX strategy

• How EX links to organisational design, trust, inclusion, and long-term performance

This is a manifesto for leaders and HR professionals who want to build workplaces where people — and businesses — thrive.

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🎧 Listen to the full conversation now to discover how to do this. 

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