What happened in New York with Bobby Kennedy Jr.'s attempt to get a temporary emergency order to preserve the religious vaccine exemptions? Renee and Joy discuss some of the details, and why the religious argument in the USA is dead when it comes to vaccines. The Control Group is headed into court with scientific evidence and NUMBERS related to risk factors, numbers that entirely defeat Pharma's entirely unsubstantiated "rare" slogan. Go to TheControlGroup.org to help with this effort. All messages through this site WILL be answered.