What if imagination is just as real as the chair you're sitting on? After two weeks dreaming herself awake in the Anza-Borrego desert, Yulya came back with a question — and brought it into this conversation, where the three of us show up in personas we don't usually wear and use them as a doorway into reality itself. We talk about shared illusions, the cost of living on the fringe of consensus, and why some of us simply can't survive in a world without magic.

📍Chapters

00:00 — Yulya Welcomes: Strange Outfits and "What Is Real?"

02:37 — Yulya's Vision Quest: Anza-Borrego and the Underworld Journey

07:03 — The Games: Playing With "Real" and Assembling Personas

19:33 — Wild Woman, Destroyer, Seductress: The Personas Speak

24:06 — Was the Persona Real — Or Just the Costume?

29:05 — Irina's Frame: Becoming the Character from the Outside In

36:33 — Dumbledore's Answer: "Why Should It Mean It's Not Real?"

39:14 — The Black Cube Experiment: How Society Rewrites What You See

48:13 — Polina: Everything Is Real, Nothing Is Real

50:06 — When Polina Shapeshifted Into a Bird

55:51 — Following Aliveness and the Cost of Being Shunned

1:02:00 — The Body Refuses: A World Without Magic

1:15:39 — Irina's Bun Date: "Please Take It Down"

1:20:49 — On the Outskirts: Three Closings on Aliveness and Owning It

1:26:17 — Polina's Twist: The Joy of Range

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* Life in Flow Podcast

* Yulia Bogdanova

* Polina Khodova

* Irina Mishina

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