You Seem Fine Podcast

What is the Playlist Protocol?


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00:00- Opening

00:12- Legal Disclosure

00:42- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:08- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift

01:19- Hannah's Swiftie Song

02:20- Hannah's Explanation

04:09- Roland's Swiftie Song

05:01- Roland's Explanation

08:04- Hot Take Intro

08:20- Spotlight! Playlist Protocol

08:41- Playlist Protocol background

09:18- What is it?

10:03- Nostalgia is key

10:57- More Personal & Provocative

11:31- Must be within therapy

12:41- Playlists around specificity to process

13:07- Parts work?!

14:00- Process & Heal

14:14- Music is Therapeutic

14:36- Neural Nostalgia

15:06- Formative Years Roots

15:31- Foundational & Step Process

16:26- What's the science?

16:39- Neuroscience- Music & Memory

17:18- Songs can bypass the thinking brain

17:48- EMDR / Brainspotting adjacent

18:39- White Noise or Nature sounds adjacent

19:34- Lyrics, Beat, Music All Matter

21:04- Dissonance can be interpreted

22:11- Memories AND Beat

23:29- Playlists are common for people

24:14- Music Reflects Feelings

25:17- Relatable, Memory, or New

26:11- Re-trauma or Re-trigger (Feedback Loop)

27:25- Music as coping mechanism

28:10- Relapse is easy

30:06- Narrative Therapy & Music

31:29- Re-tell their stories (physical writing)

31:52- WET (Written Exposure Therapy)

32:30- Re-telling the story where you are now

33:09- Habit Stacking

34:35- Tailored to many approaches

35:42- Where is the Playlist Protocol going?

36:04- Book? Podcast? CEs? Coming Soon!

37:28- Takeaways

38:05- Be creative with music to reflect YOU

38:33- Reflect on every playlist & what it's doing for you!

38:41- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

39:14- Behind the Couch (Roland)

39:35- Client accounts to help create Protocol

39:59- 30 Day Song Challenges w/ Clients

40:36- Themed Playlists for Reflection

41:09- Inject some fun into therapy

41:17- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

41:30- Music as a coping skill

41:43- Habit stacking with music

42:11- Insight to Client Emotions

42:58- Mirroring

43:18- Music puts words to emotion

43:48- All things creative are perfect for therapy space

44:41- Bilateral music playlists to calm down/settle in

45:27- Under the Cushion (Roland)

45:46- Music is always on

46:03- All genres

46:23- Driving & Music is cathartic

46:51- Cultural Experiences w/ music

47:06- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

47:08- Music is everything

47:26- Chaotic music playlists

47:48- Words to emotions & normalize feelings

48:03- Outro

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You Seem Fine PodcastBy Hannah Shahabi and Roland Scheppske