Hey baby, what's your sign? Hannah and Roland look to the stars this week in order to discuss just how deeply a horoscope can mean not only to them, but to anyone interested as well. Horoscopes have been around for a millennia, first appearing in the Mediterranean region sometime around the late 2nd or 1st century BCE. The word "horoscope" comes from the Greek words "horos", meaning "hour", and "skopos", meaning "observer". Join Hannah and Roland as they discuss horoscopes relation to religion, how in depth your horoscope & birth chart can really go, its place, if any, in the therapeutic process, and if these two Scorpio's truly do sting.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

This week, Hannah and Roland have their first guest on the podcast! Lily Shahabi, a consultant based in Boston, and Hannah's sister! Lily has struggled with this week's subject, joins to uniquely discuss how she handles life with High Functioning Anxiety. High-functioning anxiety refers to individuals who experience anxiety symptoms while maintaining a high level of functionality in various aspects of their lives. They may appear successful and put-together externally, but internally struggle with feelings of stress, self-doubt, and fear. Quite frankly, that sounds like your average millennial if you ask us...

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Season 2?! Already? Join Hannah and Roland as they kick off the start of season two as they revisit the podcasts namesake--Fine. Discussing the origins of the word Fine as well as how the meaning of the word has changed and been reinvented over time, Hannah and Roland discuss how they each use the word themselves and how they see others, particularly their clients, fall into the trap and mundane use of the word. Whether you feel f*cked up, insecure, neurotic, or emotional, tune in as two millennial licensed professional counselors try and see if they can't reinvent the word yet again. Welcome back!

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland continue to develop hot take after hot take on a wide array of therapy topics, buzzword media phenomena, and pop culture. It's these discussions that help fuel their millennial hearts and spun this podcast into a continued existential crisis of a reality. Very on brand, right? With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland continue to express their thoughts and want to appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality. It is forever their goal for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICSENED PROFESSIONAL*

00:00- Opening

00:17- Legal Disclosure

00:46- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:58- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:12- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift

01:23- Hannah's Swiftie Song

01:58- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:01- Hannah's Explanation

05:03- Roland's Explanation

06:29- Hot Take Intro

06:35- Toxic Positivity Definitions

10:05- Positivity Practice is a Mindset

11:30- Zoom In & Out Example

12:34- Toxic Behaviors & Awareness

13:01- Nuanced Awareness

17:01- Societal Influence

18:49- Emotional Intelligence & Maturity

20:32- Hannah's Personal Experience

21:30- Roland's Personal Experience

23:12- Intentionality

24:51- CBT Mirror's

25:38- CBT Examples

26:55- Differences

28:00- Toxic Positivity with Self

29:49- Healthy Positivity

32:17- Takeaways

35:22- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

35:35- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

37:25- Behind the Couch (Roland)

39:44- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

43:02- Under the Cushion (Roland)

50:50- "Okay please hold while I...."

50:52- Outro

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL*

00:00- Opening

00:11- Legal Disclosure

00:41- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:53- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:09- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:19- Roland's Swiftie Song

02:37- Hannah's Swiftie Song

08:25- Chatter?? (Might be okay though)

08:38- Hot Take Intro

08:44- The Black Sheep

09:05- Internal Family Systems Approach

10:32- Examples of Parts

12:23- IFS Work Example

13:50- Family Roles vs Parts

14:33- Black Sheep vs Cycle Breaker

15:20- Hannah's Hot Take

15:42- Roland's Hot Take

18:23- Hannah's Sub-Hot Take

18:41- Black Sheep Potential

20:27- Black Sheep + Empowerment = Cycle Breaker

22:48- Black Sheep, Woe as me?

23:30- Cycle Breaker is Active, Black Sheep is Passive

24:32- "Not Everyone is a Cycle Breaker"

25:32- Battle between Self & Inner Child

26:25- Manager & Firefighter

27:30- Nuance of the Black Sheep

27:43- The Difficult Child

28:42- Takeaways

29:39- Therapy is important!

30:36- Not just family (Society/Work/Etc.)

32:04- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

32:12- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

38:39- Behind the Couch (Roland)

43:14- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

47:10- Under the Cushion (Roland)

52:03- Outro

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL*

00:00- Opening

00:11- Legal Disclosure

00:41- Hannah Intro

00:53- Roland Intro

01:09- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

02:03- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:30- Hannah's Swiftie Song

04:46- Hot Take Intro

04:52- Selfish, Self Care, Self Indulgence

05:46- Self Care Definition

06:03- Selfish Definition

06:23- Self Indulgence Definition

06:36- F@ck, Marry, Kill

07:33- Roland's Soap Box

08:22- Roland's Explanation

09:26- Self Care vs Selfish

10:16- Example of Selfish

12:17- Better Example of Selfish

13:20- Hannah's Explanation

14:17- Self Care = Fulfillment

14:55- Societal Constructs of Selfishness

15:52- Further examples by Hannah

16:24- Further examples of Self Care vs Selfish

20:37- Selfishness is a Complex Theory

21:40- Self Indulgence

22:32- Self Care can be Self Indulgence

23:11- LIBRA OR GEMINI?!

23:34- Hannah's Self Indulgence

24:56- Selfish vs Self Indulgence

25:35- Roland's Soap Box part deux

26:20- Hot Takes

29:00- Part 2 Preview

29:09- Hannah & Roland's F@ck, Marry, Kill Order

29:32- Hannah's Order

30:32- Roland's Order

31:30- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

31:46- Behind the Couch (Roland)

33:51- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:57- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

41:09- Under the Cushion (Roland)

42:20- Outro

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

00:00- Opening

00:11- Legal Disclosure

00:41- Hannah Intro

00:53- Roland Intro

01:09- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

02:03- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:30- Hannah's Swiftie Song

04:46- Hot Take Intro

04:52- Selfish, Self Care, Self Indulgence

05:46- Self Care Definition

06:03- Selfish Definition

06:23- Self Indulgence Definition

06:36- F@ck, Marry, Kill

07:33- Roland's Soap Box

08:22- Roland's Explanation

09:26- Self Care vs Selfish

10:16- Example of Selfish

12:17- Better Example of Selfish

13:20- Hannah's Explanation

14:17- Self Care = Fulfillment

14:55- Societal Constructs of Selfishness

15:52- Further examples by Hannah

16:24- Further examples of Self Care vs Selfish

20:37- Selfishness is a Complex Theory

21:40- Self Indulgence

22:32- Self Care can be Self Indulgence

23:11- LIBRA OR GEMINI?!

23:34- Hannah's Self Indulgence

24:56- Selfish vs Self Indulgence

25:35- Roland's Soap Box part deux

26:20- Hot Takes

29:00- Part 2 Preview

29:09- Hannah & Roland's F@ck, Marry, Kill Order

29:32- Hannah's Order

30:32- Roland's Order

31:30- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

31:46- Behind the Couch (Roland)

33:51- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:57- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

41:09- Under the Cushion (Roland)

42:20- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL*

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in the DMV area. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

00:00- Opening

00:15- Legal Disclosure

00:45- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:56- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:11- I Don't Need Therapy, I have Taylor Swift

01:22- Roland's Swiftie Song

03:07- Hannah's Swiftie Song

06:41- Hot Take Intro

06:46- Boundaries

07:43- Taught Expectance/No need for boundaries

08:19- When did boundaries become boundaries?

09:20- Kinds of boundaries

10:20- Boundaries to self

11:28- Buzzwords

11:48- Boundaries are for yourself

12:52- Rules vs Boundaries

13:49- Free or Available

14:05- Example of our boundaries

15:10- Boundaries we don't like

15:52- Example of our boundaries

16:43- Discussing needs within boundaries

18:08- Open/Concrete boundaries

19:30- Stealth expectations within boundaries

19:59- Not wanting to see boundaries

20:55- Meet in the middle/compromise boundaries

21:47- Weird cut, maybe?

21:48- Boundary Follow Up & Fleshing out

24:20- Level of self awareness within boundaries

25:25- Tells of inner experience

27:02- Self Discovery within Boundaries

27:59- Keeping/Disregarding People & Boundaries

28:16- Process of discussing boundaries

31:34- Comparison of Hot Takes & Boundaries

32:41- Enmeshed boundaries

33:58- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

34:06- Behind the Couch (Hannah)

39:54- Under the Cushion (Hannah)

41:41- Behind the Couch (Roland)

43:29- Under the Cushion (Roland)

44:13- Outro

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in Virginia. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996). With the fun spin these life experiences give to their hot takes, both Hannah and Roland decided that being able to express these thoughts and appeal to others, who often find themselves in a “I’m fine, this is fine” mentality, would not only be fun, but also beneficial. Specifically, for listeners to be inspired to seek out and achieve betterment in their own therapy journey.

00:00- Opening

00:17- Legal disclosure

00:46- Personal Intro (Hannah)

00:58- Personal Intro (Roland)

01:13- I Don't Need Therapy, I Have Taylor Swift

01:25- Roland's Swiftie Song

04:33- Hannah's Swiftie Song

08:10- "Alright we're recording"

08:10- Hot Take: Stealth Expectations

09:19- Hannah's version of Stealth Expectations

10:45- Roland's version of Stealth Expectations

12:28- Stealth Expectations vs High Expectations

13:53- Thought errors/Thought Distortions vs Expectations

14:32- Self vs Societal Born Expectations

16:49- Are expectations even necessary?

17:33- Linear healing

18:31- Why do we have expectations?

20:07- Goals vs Expectations vs Obligations

26:00- Unsaid Expectations

27:46- Where are unmet expectations felt?

28:50- Mirroring Conditional Love

30:25- Meeting needs

31:08- Comparing hot takes

36:01- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion

37:40- Behind the Couch & Under the Cushion explanation

38:07- Behind the Couch (Roland)

40:54 -Behind the Couch (Hannah)

45:31 -Under the Cushion (Roland)

49:52 -Under the Cushion (Hannah)

55:22-Outro clip

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL.*

Hannah Shahabi, LPC and Roland Scheppske, LPC are two millennial therapists living in Virginia. Hannah and Roland have often found themselves having lengthy conversations with one another and developing hot takes about different therapy topics. It was in these discussions that the two of them realized a lot of ways that they mentally envisioned these aspects, were through the specific lens of a millennial (i.e. those born between the years of 1981-1996).

00:00- Opening

00:18- Personal Intros (Hannah)

00:27- Personal Intros (Roland)

00:42- Legal disclosure

01:11- YSF origin (Hannah & Roland)

06:03- How Hannah & Roland met

06:58- Process of becoming a therapist

07:28- Surviving grad school

08:21- YSF origin continued

09:29- Taylor Swift teaser/structure

11:00- Taylor Swift continued

13:16- Podcast setup/structure

14:49- Outro

*THIS PODCAST IS NOT A SUPPLEMENT OR REPLACEMENT FOR THERAPY CONDUCTED WITH A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL.*