From the interrogation of the conceptual shifts which were crystallized by the events of recent years through the lens of Ivan Illich and beyond, this conversation with David Cayley turns over a bushel of stones, from the idolization of 'Life', to the unconsciously Christian character of secular society, to the problematics around the relationship between science and politics and more. May you find it illuminating!

David's website can be found here:

https://www.davidcayley.com/

And the specific article of his to which we allude at the conversation's outset can be found here:

https://www.davidcayley.com/blog/2020...

An additional, very germane piece, here:

https://www.davidcayley.com/blog/2021...