In this episode of Leadership Unlearned and Reframed, Maxine Attong sits down with Leah Blue de Souza, talent development strategist, entrepreneur, and learning and development specialist with over 21 years of experience.

Leah shares what leaders often get wrong about learning and development and why many organizations fail to get real value from their training investments.

The conversation explores the difference between training and learning, the importance of having qualified L&D professionals in the role, and why too many organizations rely on emotion, likability, or habit instead of strategy, data, and sound design.

Leah also highlights a major mistake leaders make: using training to fix poor performance or avoid difficult performance conversations.

Together, Maxine and Leah unpack the need to align learning initiatives with business strategy, measure return on investment, choose the right intervention for the right issue, and stop confusing entertainment, team bonding, and real development. T

his episode is a practical and honest conversation for leaders, HR professionals, and anyone responsible for developing people at work.

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