Where we sit down together to talk about what makes a great trainer, if someone needs to be a good trainer to be a teacher of trainers, and being the best insect you can be.

Also, we argue about responsibility for solving clients' problems, what to do when your ADHD writes notes to future self, and we both agree that Matthias isn't a great trainer.

Gretta Ford's Set Up to Succeed 

Lauren's jazzy new website and services

And needle-shy horse programs coming very soon! 

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