Where we sit down with Pat Stuart to talk providing clarity via consequences, where Pat and Lauren differ in who they will teach about the use of aversives, and management & avoidance vs training & exposure.

Also, what inherently saves Lauren from doing dumb things, the fear of telling people who you're learning from, and the perils of projecting your beliefs of what people will do with aversives onto others.

Pat's Serious Dog Business

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Where we sit down with veterinary behaviour resident Dr Nita Hynes to talk about veterinary behaviourist/trainer/behaviour consultant collabs, challenges and ethical considerations in the shelter world, and 'drugging' dogs as a panacea.

Also, cat owners as MVP clients, losing your podcast virginity, and absolutely zero talk about AI dog training apps.

Dr Nita's website

Dr Nita's Instagram

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Where we sit down together to talk about pivotal learning moments in our careers that changed everything for us: play as reinforcer/steam-letter-off-er, emotive video overlays, 'that person is like me, but with different information'., and more.

Also, eagle, dog and AI absurdity, Team Flatline vs Team Rollercoaster, and the benefits of playing Arousal DJ.

Mushrooms Making Music

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Where we sit down with Sarah Stremming to talk about her thoughts on that yoghurt episode, 'self-operating' vs managed animals, and ensuring that your training is hand-off-able to the client, or husband.

Also, Sarah's loose leash walking technique, 'high tenacity, low resilience' animals, and not crying - even though we all have something to cry about right now.

⁠Sarah Stremming's Website⁠

⁠Cog Dog Radio Podcast⁠

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Where we sit down together to talk about Lauren's recent approach to changing her dog's behaviour, how our biases affect our categorisation of such things, and if any of it it really matters.

Also, thinking about Matthias' lizard, trading autonomy for comfort, and the ethics of importing street dogs.

The Dress Drama: how our differences shape our perceptions

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Where I (Lauren) sat down with Noche Miller to talk about her perspective as a rancher on training animals, the use of positive reinforcement with livestock, and what it takes to get a Guinness Book of World Records recordfor most tricks performed by a cow named Ghost.

Also, teaching horses to generalize responses to pressure asLife Skill 101, the little-known power of doing a shared job with a working animal, and the role reversal of Noche’s dog’s wants compared to Matthias’ dog.

Noche's new book

Noche's website

Horse Tricks 101 website

Ghost the cow and her Guinness World Record article;

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Where we sit down together to talk about the concept of sunk cost fallacy, how it might affect us as training and behaviour professionals, and how not to fall victim to this limiting cognitive bias.

Also, horsemanship defined(?), Scotland talk, and Lauren's aggressive typing.

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Where we sit down together to talk about some of the mistakes we've made with horses and dogs, Lauren's secret to having hair that people will compliment, and how Matthias was duped to give up deeply personal items - all in the name of training.

Also, sketchy round pens you shouldn't use (reverse or otherwise), when being 'kinder' might be a mistake, and what not to say when a person gets bucked off.

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Where we sit down with Erin Lynes to talk about that Fetch post making the social media rounds, how many Labradors are too many, and what "fetch" means to different people - and dogs.

Also, the Fetch equivalents with horses, being mindful of what patterns we’re building with animals, and another Matthias story about why he's a lousy dog trainer.

Erin's Fenzi Dog Sports Academy Classes

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Where we sit down together to talk about our echo chambers, avoiding self-radicalization, and what we both find reinforcing on social media posts.

Also, Matthias unknowingly reveals his dog trainer crush, Lauren confesses to being a lousy dog trainer, and we hash out some potential problems of having your beliefs become your identity.

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