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Not Another Dog and Pony Show
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Not Another Dog and Pony Show episodes
- 'Ah Ha!' moments that changed everything
Where we sit down together to talk about pivotal learning moments in our careers that changed everything for us: play as reinforcer/steam-letter-off-er, emotive video overlays, 'that person is like me, but with different information'., and more.
Also, eagle, dog and AI absurdity, Team Flatline vs Team Rollercoaster, and the benefits of playing Arousal DJ.
Mushrooms Making Music
Topic or guest suggestions? Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all! Email [email protected]
57 min - Sarah Stremming: About that yoghurt...
Where we sit down with Sarah Stremming to talk about her thoughts on that yoghurt episode, 'self-operating' vs managed animals, and ensuring that your training is hand-off-able to the client, or husband.
Also, Sarah's loose leash walking technique, 'high tenacity, low resilience' animals, and not crying - even though we all have something to cry about right now.
Sarah Stremming's Website
Cog Dog Radio Podcast
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1 hr 9 min - The great yoghurt debate of 2025
Where we sit down together to talk about Lauren's recent approach to changing her dog's behaviour, how our biases affect our categorisation of such things, and if any of it it really matters.
Also, thinking about Matthias' lizard, trading autonomy for comfort, and the ethics of importing street dogs.
The Dress Drama: how our differences shape our perceptions
Topic or guest suggestions? Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all! Email [email protected]
51 min - Noche Miller: A rancher's perspective on R+ and animal training
Where I (Lauren) sat down with Noche Miller to talk about her perspective as a rancher on training animals, the use of positive reinforcement with livestock, and what it takes to get a Guinness Book of World Records recordfor most tricks performed by a cow named Ghost.
Also, teaching horses to generalize responses to pressure asLife Skill 101, the little-known power of doing a shared job with a working animal, and the role reversal of Noche’s dog’s wants compared to Matthias’ dog.
Noche's new book
Noche's website
Horse Tricks 101 website
Ghost the cow and her Guinness World Record article;
Topic or guest suggestions?Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all! Email [email protected]
49 min - Sunk cost fallacy
Where we sit down together to talk about the concept of sunk cost fallacy, how it might affect us as training and behaviour professionals, and how not to fall victim to this limiting cognitive bias.
Also, horsemanship defined(?), Scotland talk, and Lauren's aggressive typing.
Topic or guest suggestions? Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all! Email [email protected]
41 min - Mistakes were made
Where we sit down together to talk about some of the mistakes we've made with horses and dogs, Lauren's secret to having hair that people will compliment, and how Matthias was duped to give up deeply personal items - all in the name of training.
Also, sketchy round pens you shouldn't use (reverse or otherwise), when being 'kinder' might be a mistake, and what not to say when a person gets bucked off.
Topic or guest suggestions? Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all! Email [email protected]
52 min - Erin Lynes: Fetch, the other F word
Where we sit down with Erin Lynes to talk about that Fetch post making the social media rounds, how many Labradors are too many, and what "fetch" means to different people - and dogs.
Also, the Fetch equivalents with horses, being mindful of what patterns we’re building with animals, and another Matthias story about why he's a lousy dog trainer.
Erin's Fenzi Dog Sports Academy Classes
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1 hr 1 min - Nothing much happens
Where we sit down together to talk about our echo chambers, avoiding self-radicalization, and what we both find reinforcing on social media posts.
Also, Matthias unknowingly reveals his dog trainer crush, Lauren confesses to being a lousy dog trainer, and we hash out some potential problems of having your beliefs become your identity.
Topic or guest suggestions? Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all! Email [email protected]
40 min - Erika Stark: Issues with/benefits of AI in our industry
Where we sit down with Erika Percival Stark to talk about concerns with AI, how we might use AI ethically to do our metaphorical laundry, and where we might want to tread more carefully.
Also, how theft of IP ain't really a new thing, what ChatGPT doesn't know about how women urinate, and another awkward Mattinglish story.Erika Stark LinkedIn
And if pStyle wants to sponsor the pod, Lauren is game.Topic or guest suggestions? Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all! Email [email protected]
55 min - Season One: That's a wrap!
Where we sit down together to talk about our first season as people who podcast, Lauren's scepticism of chia seeds, and whether we are as 'balanced' in our training approaches as some might think.
Also, highlights from the year that was, hopes for the future of animal training and b mod, and Matthias' regimented bathing regime.Thank you all, for being part of this journey!Topic or guest suggestions? Fan mail? Hate mail? We love to hear from you all! Email [email protected]
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About Not Another Dog and Pony Show
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Welcome to Not Another Dog and Pony Show, where animal behaviour and training professionals Lauren Fraser, MSc, FFCP, and Matthias Lenz, KPA graduate, FDM, are on a mission to connect dog and horse…
trainers from diverse backgrounds, through open-minded & friendly, philosophical discourse. We tackle our industry's 'dog and pony show' issues head-on, encouraging our training and behaviour colleagues to learn from one another and consider things from outside one's usual biases. We believe such unity is crucial for improving our industry and, ultimately, the welfare of animals.
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