Where we sit down in a cheap motel room with Dr David Lane for a discussion about some differences in how we approach animals for veterinary care and training or behaviour modification work: giving clients treatment options and causing animals tolerable stress or discomfort.

Also, having the willingness to refer to another professional if something is outside of your wheelhouse, respecting client autonomy, and the difficulties of trusting professionals to do their work.

⁠Predation Substitute Training⁠

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