Sasha Chapin and Cate Hall have been together for three years. Sasha is a writer and co-founder of a perfume company, while Cate is a former pro poker player and CEO of a foundation. They talk about radical honesty in relationships, why the Enneagram can help bridge extreme personalities, and commitment over connection.

Modern Relationships is a podcast from Turpentine. Learn more: www.turpentine.co

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Preview and Intro

(02:26) How They Met

(05:15) Initial Incompatibility vs Sense of Inevitability

(11:41) Complementary Extremes

(14:37) The Reverse Honeymoon Period

(15:05) Sponsor: Relationship Hero

(17:57) Reversed Gender Roles

(24:51) Radical Honesty

(29:02) Levels of Woo

(29:38) Spiritual Alignment

(31:41) The Enneagram as Relationship Tool

(45:02) Relationship Advice: Marriage Timing and Commitment

(51:47) Puzzle Difficulty vs Slush Difficulty

(57:58) Commitment Before Connection

(1:00:12) Reverse Catfishing

(1:02:00) Wrap