A 23-year-old writing $145,000 of target premium in a single month sounds like hype until you hear how Keenan Stockling actually does it. We talk through the unglamorous parts most people skip: getting uncomfortable, learning the contract, and structuring indexed universal life insurance the right way even when it means taking less commission. If you’ve ever wondered why some IULs perform well and others turn into disappointment, this conversation puts the spotlight where it belongs: the design, the illustration, and the client’s real goal.

We break down cash value life insurance in plain language, including how Keenan frames the choice between retirement-focused cash value growth and pure death benefit protection. We dig into overfunding, cost of insurance, guaranteed vs non-guaranteed values, and why policy loans can be a powerful way to access money without liquidating assets. We also talk diversification without trashing 401(k)s and IRAs, plus the practical skill that levels up new agents fast: calling the carriers, asking them to “sell you” on their product, and running real scenarios until you can explain it clearly.

Then we shift to annuities and retirement planning. Keenan explains annuities with an “escalator” analogy, while we dig into trust, emotion, and why protecting principal can be just as important as chasing returns. You’ll also hear his story of starting with no car, selling to friends and family, moving across the country, buying high-intent leads, and staying profitable while building a team and a bigger mission for his family.

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