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How your purpose, pain, and persistence fuel your personal drive

What really keeps you going? Is it passion, pressure, pain, or purpose?

In this honest and powerful conversation, Tommie and Lance break down the real meaning of motivation — beyond clichés and buzzwords. They talk about what drove them early in life, how that motivation changed through their military careers, and what keeps them grounded today as Black men, husbands, fathers, and veterans.

From ambition to adversity, they explore the fine line between healthy drive and burnout — and how knowing your why changes everything.

💬 Tune in to this episode for real talk on growth, purpose, and staying the course.

🎧 Available now on all major podcast platforms and YouTube 

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