The Simple Heart w/ Wayne Hsiung

What To Do If You Hate CEOs (with Nathan Robinson) (Ep.63)


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Nathan and I discuss the deep-seated human desire for retribution – and how to harness it for change.

Follow Nathan:

https://x.com/NathanJRobinson

Follow Current Affairs:

https://www.currentaffairs.org

https://www.patreon.com/currentaffairs

More links below.

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Chapters:

Chapter 1) 00:00-10:18 Intro, Nathan Robinson of Current Affairs, on those that profit from healthcare, & how to handle injustices of healthcare

Chapter 2) 10:19-19:47 On suspected shooter Luigi Mangione, media coverage not talking about the underlying problems with the healthcare system, & why some try to justify the unjustifiable violence they choose to do

Chapter 3) 19:48-27:37 Moral justice in social justice movements, on Bernie Sanders, & on Socialism

Chapter 4) 27:38-38:59 Incremental change compared to immediate change in activism, Nathan’s personal and political journey, & on the Iraq War

Chapter 5) 39:00-48:31 Emotional effect of seeing footage of suffering, the positive vision of social justice movements, on Socialism and animal rights, & on moral philosophers and animal rights

Chapter 6) 48:32-58:33 The normalization of ignoring animal rights, how to undo the normalization of ignoring animal rights, & the rapid changes of social justice movements

Chapter 7) 58:34-1:01:41 How to respond to injustices of the system and institutions & follow Current Affairs & Nathan (links above & below)

Chapter 8) 1:01:42-1:01:58 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

Books/Articles Mentioned:

“The Myth of American Idealism” by Nathan J. Robinson and Noam Chomsky

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/why-you-should-read-the-myth-of-american-idealism

PNAS: “The global biomass of wild mammals”

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2204892120

“Wild mammals make up only a few percent of the world’s mammals” by Hannah Ritchie

https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass

“A Political Movement for Animal Rights Is Coming” by Wayne Hsiung

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/a-political-movement-for-animal-rights-is-coming

“'It's A Cookbook': Animal Welfare Cascades” by Cass Sunstein

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3866727

“The Strength of Weak Ties” by Mark Granovetter

https://www.jstor.org/stable/2776392

PDF link:

https://snap.stanford.edu/class/cs224w-readings/granovetter73weakties.pdf

“50 years on, Mark Granovetter’s ‘The Strength of Weak Ties’ is stronger than ever” by Melissa De Witte

https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2023/07/strength-weak-ties

“Threshold Models of Collective Behavior” by Mark Granovetter

https://sociology.stanford.edu/publications/threshold-models-collective-behavior

PDF link:

https://www2.cs.siu.edu/~hexmoor/classes/CS539-F10/Collective-Behavior.pdf

“Why You Should Be a Socialist” by Nathan J. Robinson

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2019/12/why-you-should-buy-why-you-should-be-a-socialist

Follow Nathan:

https://www.nathanjrobinson.com

https://www.instagram.com/nathan___robinson/

https://www.facebook.com/njrobinson

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathan-robinson-751b211a/

Follow Current Affairs:

https://www.linktr.ee/CurrentAffairs

https://currentaffairs.substack.com/

https://x.com/CurAffairs

https://www.threads.net/@currentaffairsmag

https://www.tiktok.com/@current.affairs.mag

https://www.instagram.com/currentaffairsmag/

https://www.linkedin.com/company/current-affairs-mag/

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