What started with one case in Wuhan in 2019 has led to five million deaths worldwide, with more than 800,000 in the United States alone.

And with a virus that mutates so quickly, no one knows when the COVID-19 pandemic will become as endemic as the seasonal flu.

In the meantime, "vaccine apartheid" means rich countries have abundant supplies of vaccines while most of the world has none - only prolonging the pandemic for everyone.

Host Steve Clemons talks to Dr Eric Topol, a scientist at Scripps Research, about the future of coexistence with COVID.