Adam Mares and Brendan Vogt discuss what it would take for Nikola Jokić to move into the GOAT conversation. Why? Because there are no other hot takes left.

Start - 0:00

Some NBA Beef/ Is Charlotte a bad org? - 3:00

Shannon Sharpe vs Giannis - 11:15

Pat Bev vs. load management - 16:30

What would it take for Jokic to enter the GOAT debate? - 22:20

Separating eras - 24:15

Narrative checkmarks - 25:30

No bad playoff losses - 31:35

Does he need a season better than last year? - 39:00

Does he need to have a impactful legacy on the sport? - 40:00

Some stats that matter - 45:30

What does he have to do? - 53:00

GOAT potential playing now? - 59:20

Jordan Poole vs. MPJ - 1:04:15

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