Daniela and Shaun explore what they would each do with a secondary partner and what benefits and drawbacks there might be for their relationship. They talk about the perception of time as the limitation for connection in relationships and how being busy is a status symbol in society.

Hear Daniela say, “If you’re not doing the work with your primary partner, what makes you think you’re doing the work with your secondary partner?” while Shaun says, “I can tell you after having done some of the work—not all of it—the byproduct of doing the work is beautiful.” Listen as they discuss relationships as a container for healing and growth if you’re willing to be vulnerable and brave.

Through Daniela and Shaun’s conversation, playfully explore what you might desire from a secondary partner. Then turn around, look at your partner and consider what you can experience together.

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