Since the mid-80s, Jarboe has been an important figure in the musical underground. While many will have first come to know her through her mesmerising performances as a member of Swans from 1985 to the band’s initial breakup in 1997, Jarboe has now been releasing music under her own name for roughly 35 years.

1991’s Thirteen Masks showcased her versatility as a singer and songwriter and with each successive release Jarboe has continued to explore the possibilities of compositional architecture.

From the harrowing intensity of 1998’s Anhedoniac, to the drone-metal-infused Mahakali ten years later, to the beautiful and highly atmospheric Illusory from 2020, Jarboe’s next musical step can never be predicted.

Sightings (released this Friday on Consouling Sounds) builds from an experience Jarboe had several years ago where a particular vireo bird appeared in her garden every day for a whole summer, seemingly performing directly for her.

Recordings of this bird’s versatile song became the foundation for the album’s centrepiece “Vireo Serenade”.

Once the idea of Sightings was born, Jarboe brought in several friends and collaborators, (including Thor Harris and Father Murphy’s Freddie Murphy and Chiara Lee) to help create an album that once again explores new musical terrain, while continuing to signpost her enduring Buddhist meditative practices.

Jarboe joins me to discuss the album, nature, danger, creativity and how she navigates the music business as a DIY artist who has never courted mainstream attention.

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Writing a novel and writing a song are two quite different prospects. Dan Hornsby—author of Sucker and Via Negativa, as well as fronting indie-rock group True Green—is pretty well-versed in both.

On this very day True Green release their second album HAIL DISASTER on Spacecase Records and Dan joins me to discuss his music, his writing and some of the stories that make their way into his art.

In amongst discussions of the late Steve Irwin, Lou Reed and The Cleaners from Venus we even find ourselves discussing the late purple one, Prince. And I’m always game for a chat about Prince.

True Green will be playing shows in North America in the end of May. You can get further information on all upcoming shows from the links below.

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Though post-punk unit Black Beach was officially born in 2012, Steve Instasi, bassist Ben Semeta and drummer Ryan Nicholson had already been playing together under different names.

In fact, Ben and Steve have been playing together in various bands since Steve was 12. So Mail Thief (out this Friday on Best Brother Records) is certainly far from the trio’s first rodeo.

But while the band already have several releases under their belts, Mail Thief is Black Beach’s first collaboration with a label (thanks to the band linking up with Best Brother Records).

With Mail Thief channelling strains of The Birthday Party, as well as longstanding inspirations like The Fall and The Stooges, Steve joins me to discuss the record, how the band’s sound has evolved over the years and tales from many years of performing and touring.

And on the topic of tours, Black Beach will be playing along the East Coast of the US from the 1st of April, preceded by an album-release show on Saturday the 21st of March at Deep Cuts, Medford, MA (supported by Pinklids, Nice Guys and Dinos).

Incidentally, on the 4th of April, Black Beach will be sharing a stage with Luna Honey, whose Maura Pond appeared on this podcast all the way back on episode 47—if you haven’t already given that interview a whirl, the might like to do so. She’s great and they’re great.

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Currently residing in Berlin, US-born Claire Dickson is no stranger to having the inspiration of a new environment seep its way into her music.

While her debut, solo-record Starland was intriguingly, “Created on a boat in the Arctic Circle and her apartment in Brooklyn,” (where she lived at that time), Balance was born entirely out of the land.

With her latest record released today (on New Amsterdam Records), Claire joins me to discuss her music, her singing background, why she moved to Berlin (and stayed) and how she found herself in the Artic Circle.

For music, videos, live dates and more, visit Claire Dickson’s website.

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Songwriter, performer, producer, sitcom-theme-tune writer, radio host, Ben Vaughn has many strings to his bow from decades working in the arts and entertainment world.

Since January of this year, ‘podcast host’ can now be added to the list, as Vaughn (alongside co-host Laura Pochodylo) present “Straight From The Hat With Ben Vaughn”.

On each episode of the show Pochodylo (a manager at Sun Records in Nashville) draws out names at random from a hat. Every name has some connection to Vaughn from his years in music and TV and so the stories spontaneously follow.

Five episodes have been aired so far, featuring stories of Vaughn playing with Lynyrd Skynyrd, how he ended up writing music for Third Rock From The Sun and (in the most recently aired episode) his role as producer on the Ween record 12 Golden Country Greats.

For sure I wasn’t going to miss the chance to get more entertaining Ween-related stories out of Vaughn, but just like with his podcast there was no shortage of topics to dive into and insights to gain from his years in the music business and beyond.

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In 2012 Chloë Lum, Yannick Desranleau and Alex Moskos played their last shows together as AIDS Wolf. They took their gear down to La Brique studios in Montréal and with engineer Sébastien Fournier recorded their final four tracks together as AIDS Wolf.

Fast forward 14 years and those tracks are finally seeing the light of day as Harsh Human Style, released this Friday on SKiN GRAFT Records.

Why the long wait? Well, conveniently Yannick, Alex and Chloë all join me to discuss just that. Well, not just that. We go through various history of the band, all the way back to the start. Their releases, the reception to their name, touring trials and tribulations in North America, their influences, contemporaries and friends past and present.

The only letdown to proceedings was my interface crapping the bed just before the interview started. But you can’t have everything, can you?

Huge thanks to Alex, Chloë and Yannick for their time and to Mark Fischer once again for setting me up to talk with such cool people.

Pre-order Harsh Human Style on CD or digitally from bandcamp — and check out their back catalogue there while you’re at it.

Check out Alex’s Drainolith project on bandcamp.

Check out Chloë and Yannick’s The Garden of a Former House Turned Museum on bandcamp.

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Blunt Knife Castration is an extreme-metal project born out of a fascination with 70s/80s horror movies, a botched surgery and the shadow of the Covid pandemic.

Blood & Oil, released this Friday on Remorseless Records is the third release from Simon Bryant under the Blunt Knife Castration name—Simon handling all the playing and recording, with the project being a solo venture up till now.

Currently Simon is in the midst of rehearsing with two newly-recruited members, the intention being to take Blunt Knife Castration onto stages in Simon’s local Kent in England and hopefully beyond.

With the dirty, noisy, overdriven spirit of sludge-metal icons Eyehategod a musical reference point since 2024 demo Chewed Up And Spat Out, Blood & Oil sees Blunt Knife Castration continue to evolve as Simon channels a more introspective, inner darkness.

Simon joins me to discuss the latest record, the project’s origins, his years away from heavy music and plans for the future.

Closing track: “Guilt Pig” (Remorseless Records, 2026)

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First rising to prominence in underground circles with neo-no-wave group Arab On Radar in the mid-90s, guitarist Steve Mattos has been involved in a number of notable musical projects over the past three decades.

Most recently Steve has been making music as part of THERE, a psychedelic, noise-rock four-piece based in Providence, Rhode Island, where Steve was born.

Also featuring former members of notable Rhode Island groups like Daughters and The Chinese Stars, THERE recently released their debut, self-titled album on Psychic Static.

Steve joins me to discuss the band, the album, growing up in Rhode Island, the influence of jazz throughout his career and the infamous first Arab On Radar show opening for Marilyn Manson in the mid-90s.

Closing track: “Disposable Head” (Psychic Static, 2026)

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2026 marks the five-year anniversary of Discipline PR, the agency founded by former Ohm Resistance head of PR, Dan Volohov.

Catering to musicians and bands across all genres, Dan and Discipline PR have been serving the underground, DIY music world with heart, enthusiasm and creativity since their inception in 2021.

With Dan being so embedded in the musical underground it should be no surprise that Discipline PR has had a hand in many of the projects that have been highlighted on this here podcast Whatever Comes Next.

Dan in fact helped set up my conversation with Peter Stahl of Scream for the very first ever episode of WCN.

As with my conversations with Dave Brenner of Earsplit PR (Episode 100: DIY Special), Clément Duboscq of Vous Connaissez ? PR (Episode 104) and Howard Wuelfing of Howlin’ Wuelf Media (Episode 118) I was delighted to get a chance to pick Dan’s brain on a bunch of music topics as he sees them from his position in PR.

It’s a great pleasure for me, both to get insights from people behind the scenes who’ve been great supporters of my own DIY music investigations, but also just to get to chat in real time to people I’m so often firing emails back and forth with.

Featuring tales of Keith Levene (of PiL), Touch & Go Records, Mick Harris (of Napalm Death and Scorn) and plenty more.

Closing track: “Fixer (with Megan Osztrosits of COUCH SLUT) (SKiN GRAFT Records/ Overdrive, 2024)

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Luxury Skin is a musical creation both beautiful and dissonant, elegant and ominous.

Last week saw the release of “Die Waiting”, the latest Luxury Skin single and a teaser for the as-yet unnamed follow-up to debut album It’s All Over from 2023.

Juliet E. Gordon is the creator of this musical world and she joins me to discuss Luxury Skin and her former band The Classical, and share her insights on writing, recording, touring and the meaning behind some of her songs.

Closing track: “Die Waiting” (2026)

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